Hi guys, glad to see things are getting back on track. Some of the issues I'm hearing crop up are "dealing with non aquatic plants", "rating things quantitatively", and "odd categories (like most original)". One thing I've seen in home shows and local annual shows is a score card kept by each judge. For fish, these cards have something like 100 total possible points, and they divy up the points in several categories (like 0-10 based on fin quality, 0-10 for appropriate size, 0-5 for deportmant, etc). We could develop some form of "scorecard" for the judges based on the different aspects we think are important for the contest, and weight the point values accordingly. This makes it easy to pick a first, 2nd and 3rd from all the judges' cards. This can also be used to pick some specialty prizes like "most original" or "best of show". At the home shows, the judges often get together at the end as well, to award some unusual prizes based on standouts that could not be recorded on the card. So what would we use as the factors? Some possibilities might be "artistry things" (maybe some of you have a better way to subdivide this; I'm not an artist, I'm a tech nerd!), "originality", "use of appropriate plants", "biotopically correct" (?), "quality of photo/text presentation" (maybe only give a couple of points for this, as we don't want it to be a photo contest), "balance with fish". So this kills our other problem of how to deal with non-aquatics. I'm not a fan of disqualifying people outright for using bog plants, but they could get zero "appropriate plants" points for doing this. What do you think, sirs? -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest