Note to self. I was supposed to have put this in this year, but forgot. Next year there needs to be a separate field in the aquascape information specifically for "Title". Common in Singapore & other asian based tanks, not common in US tanks. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:57:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lazarus Miskowski <lazmiskowski@yahoo.com> Reply-To: aquatic-plants@actwin.com Subject: Re: art and the planted aquarium It's interesting, Roger, that the club would be historically divided about aquaria as art. The problem with the technical aspect of the hobby is that you can only take it so far. And then you are done. We all know how to get there. Lack of success usually means shortcuts were employed (co2, light, algae eaters, fertilizers). How many more plants will be added to the hobby? How many more species can we jam into one tank? I've never been completely comfortable with the word "gardener" when it comes to planted aquascapes. When I hear that word, I think of rows of corn and tomatoes. I admit to eating watersprite once, but that's as far as it goes for me. I have noted that none of the tanks in the AGA contest have titles. At least none of the ones I have looked at. Works of art have titles. And when they don't have titles, they are called "untitled." Amano uses titles for his tanks. I think adding titles colors the way we view a tank, and just that little bit can add to the enjoyment. How about it? Titles (optional, I suppose) in the future. It seems to me that an aquascaping contest is ALL about art. The AGA can be about many things, but the contest ought to be about art. If people want, maybe there can be other kinds of contests, like points for the number of species you can grow in a year (sometimes I get emails that sound like those kids that solicit magazines--"if I sell one more magazine, I'll get 5,000 points, and win a scholarship to Harvard, please!" "I need x plant to get the 10 points that will put me over the top in my plant club..."). Or maybe quantity can be a contest (dry weight of plants). Or perhaps "most LFS trade-in credit contest". But the showcase ought to be about art. Which it was, for the most part. I think there is one glaring example where it wasn't, but I don't really feel like going there. You either know what I am talking about or you don't. I'm somewhat familiar with poetry. Took a class in college. :) And what they would do there is have someone in the class bring a poem. We would go home and study it, and then come back and offer critique and criticism. Then the author would use that info. to improve their work. Eventually, you could kind of guess what the criticism would be, and could therefore edit better even before you showed your work to others. Perhaps people can post URL's to tanks they would like critiqued, and interested parties can offer their advice/opinions. Or perhaps someone would like to suggest that a different tank besides the one selected ought to have been the Best of Show, and can tell us why he/she thought so. I'm just throwing out ideas here. Getting together for a contest once a year is great, but maybe ongoing dialogue could be useful also. Maybe even creating a different list would be in order. Arthur http://www.awaqua.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of Aquatic Plants Digest V4 #1407 ************************************* To unsubscribe to aquatic-plants, send the command: unsubscribe aquatic-plants in the body of a message to "Majordomo@ActWin.com". Archives are available on the web at http://www.actwin.com/fish/aquatic-plants or via FTP to ftp.actwin.com in /pub/aquaria/aquatic-plants. ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest When asked, log in as username is "aga-contest", and password "second".