On Friday 21 May 2004 11:50, you wrote: > Figures -- it's just me. But that is extraordinary when you > think about it. With all the noise each year over how the > judging occurs and how it should have occurred, no one > considers how the scores might actually matter -- they > assume, like voters in federal elections that a vote is a > vote and a winner is a winner and it's only the subjective > valuation of the voter that makes a diff. I understand that our experience in the 2002 contest was not unique. In one case two judges scored an entry so that it was at or near the top of the category and a third judge scored the same entry so that it was near the bottom of the category. When the judge's ranks were averaged the entry was not in the top 3 -- despite the fact that 2 out of 3 judges believed the entry was one of the best in the category. I suggested afterwords that the scores should be averaged using a harmonic mean rather than an arithmetic mean. That way if one judge decides to give a low score to an entry the low score is underweighted in the final decision. I think this is a good choice because -- as Erik pointed out -- the low scores contain a lot of noise. Low scores probably should not be equally weighted, which they are when using an arithmetic mean. It also might help avoid having a judge (or judges) feel like a strongly-held opinion has been ignored. I think most judges are going to have stronger opinions about the entries they award high scores than they do about the entry they award low scores. Now I'm renewing that suggestion. I think the judge's ranks should be combined using an harmonic mean. That is a detail that can be changed in the procedure even without changing the documentation. Roger ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest When asked, log in as username is "aga-contest", and password "second".