On Sunday 23 May 2004 07:43, you wrote: > I think it's important to use the raw scores of each tank in their > placement calculation rather than a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, ranking. Phil, I *really* can't support this; the final standing needs to be determined from the judge's rankings not from the raw scores. I haven't seen other judges' scores but I will guess that the inconsistency in scoring is far too large for that to work. A judge can be very careful about awarding internally consistent scores but there is nothing he or she can do to be sure their scoring scale is consistent with someone else's scoring scale. One judge might award scores to a mid-level entry that are as high as the scores another judge gives to the best entry. > Given a sufficient number of judges > any ties should work themselves out, even if it's in the area of a 0.1 > point difference. With the increased quality of the aquascapes this > becomes more and more important, in my opinion. There are a few different ways around ties. The ultimate tie breaker lies with the contest administrator. I'm not sure that increasing quality in the aquascapes makes ties more likely. Increasing quality doesn't necessarily imply increasing similarity. Roger ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest When asked, log in as username is "aga-contest", and password "second".