Phil wrote: >>Getting to the point of the original discussion though, why not give people the option of submitting non-competition photos if they want? I can't imagine that folks who have more than three rounds of aquascapes to show wouldn't choose the best aquascapes for competition anyway. Using myself as an example again, I know I would have used a "Comment Only" option liberally in the past. The only aquascape I did in order to compete was the little West African setup in 2003. I would have been just as happy clicking the Comments Only box on all my others entries and potential entries. If such an option were available this year I'd use it. I know my setups will never be competitive again but damned if I don't want to put as many aquascapes in the show as I can. I've never expected any of my aquascapes to place, for me it's about supporting the organization. Would there be a significant work/time investment involved in setting up the entry process to separate the judge/don't judge entries? All I see is the box on the user end and know nothing about the work behind it. I agree with Karen, using some sort of pre-screening or consensus between the judges about which are the top X number of tanks that actually get judged would be a good idea, especially since we don't get to see our scores. If it gave the judges more time to comment on each entry all the better. << But that's the point, Phil, _I_ don't have time to write meaningful comments on a bunch of entries that are not part of the contest; particularly when they are the second-string work of people who have already entered their best work in the contest. Since _I_ am one of the only judges who has consistently written comments for _every_ entry... I believe Amano was the only other judge who did this, interestingly enough, I am sure the other judges will not bother to comment on tanks that are not even included in the judging. The judging of these contests is a HUGE amount of work. We can't/shouldn't make it any harder for the judges than it already is, or we won't be able to get competent judges at all. And cutting down the number of tanks that need to be "judged" doesn't mean cut down on scoring and increase commentary. It's the comments that take so much time. Karen _______________________________________________ AGA-Contest mailing list AGA-Contest@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-contest