>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:38:44 -0400 >To: aga-contest@thekrib.com >From: krandall@world.std.com >Subject: Re: AGA > >At 04:11 PM 7/20/99 -0400, you wrote: > >>I guess I am in sort of limbo about the organization. I do know that while I >>was a member, the TAG was often not as big as I wished and it was often very >>late arriving. But then, so are some other magazines that are published by >>hobbyist organizations, (specifically, Discus and Cichlids groups). I always >>rationalized that you have to put up with such things because of costs, >>volunteers, etc > >You've got it. We _are_ an organization of volunteers. Moreover, we are an >organization run by a few HAGGARD volunteers, which is growing faster than >we can handle it. The MC, (management committee) which runs over a list >similar to this, has _exactly_ the same problems this list has, with >conversations getting head spinningly long and complicated. We have a >Steering Committee chair (me) who got the job by blinking first in a >meeting, agreed to hold the position for a period of 6 months, while a >permanent chair was found, and is still <sigh> in that position 18 months >later, since no one else seems to want the job either. > >The editor, Neil Frank, has had the position for almost 10 years, and is >close to burning out. (I think there are a couple of good possibilities for >replacements, but we're still in the "talking" stage. > >>I would imagine that the real reason I didn't rejoin was that I was never >>reminded that my subscription was about to run out. Just to be sure that I >>hadn't signed up for three years and forgotten about it, I emailed the AGA >>to ask if I was still a member. After hearing nothing, I contacted Karen R. >>and was able to find out that I was no longer a member. The AGA person who >>responded, told me that he only has membership records going back as far as >>last month???? I am sure this person is a volunteer and I believe he is new >>as well. So, I was not too disturbed by this. Should I have been? > >It is always hard when you have a changing of the guard, even more, when the >same person (in a different country) has been doing the job very well, but >her way for YEARS, and then the torch gets passed to someone else. Add to >the difficulty of having these records change hands physically, the fact >that Jack's computer had a major crash shortly after the change-over, and >you can see how things got quite messed up for a while. > >>One of this list's members commented that she thought she was a member >>because she sent in her membership fees in January. However, she added that >>she had never heard anything back from them. So, she was not really sure if >>she was a member. > >Normally, people know their membership has been received because they start >getting the magazine. When there are glitches in magazine production, the >system breaks down. This spring, Neil had a number of family "crises". He >was very ill with pneumonia, followed by his son, away at school ALSO >getting pneumonia and getting sick enough that he spent several weeks in >the hospital, these illnesses were followed quickly, by business in Alaska, >and another son's wedding. > >Even if that were all not happening in Neil's life, there is the ongoing >problem of getting people to write material for the magazine. If he doesn't >get enough material, it's hard to put an issue together. > >We are now discussing the possibility of adding a second publication to the >AGA line-up. This would be a short "newsletter" that would go out during >the months opposite TAG to keep members up to date on AGA news and business >matters. We are currently seeking a person to act as editor of this second >publication, and Neil just asked me to post a message on APD asking for >volunteers. I'll do that if and when I finish wading through all this >stuff!<g> > >> have heard others wondering out loud if the >>organization really existed, or whether it just a phantom organization . >>Does anyone know for sure? Karen, if you are back in town now, could you >>give us some information that might ease some of our fears here? How about >>you Erik? > >There is no doubt that the organization exists. Our membership is growing >at a tremendous rate, and the state of the treasury is very good. >Enthusiasm for planted tanks and the AGA is high. Some things that we are >_trying_ to get organized are an education committee, chaired by Paul >Krombholz. Olga is working on an extensive member survey for this >committee. I owe her a response on that, but have been too busy trying to >keep up to date on this. Erik has done an outstanding job as our technology >wizard, taking care of our web site and mailing lists. Merrill Cohen is >chair of a committee trying to get local representatives willing to share >information to and from aquarists in their local areas. (we have very active >"pockets" of membership in Seattle, San Francisco, Vancouver and New >England. Sound familiar? It _really_ helps to have AGA people active in >their "home" communities) We try to arrange AGA meetings within the context >of larger conventions. We've had as many as 30 AGA'ers get together at NEC >conventions, but it requires local AGA'ers to get things like that >organized. We had a group of 9 AGA'ers (and some spouses) who went to the >Amazon together last spring! We do a lot of fun stuff! > >There are other committees as well, and we are _always_ happy to entertain >new ideas. I think that James has found, it's pretty easy to get the "ear" >of AGA MC members. We are also _always_ looking for people who want to get >further involved in helping make AGA an even better, stronger organization. >We _want_ to be a _great_ organization, but we will never be better than the >core group of workers can make us. The more workers we have, the better the >organization will work. Wanna help? James is! > >>>From all that James has written about the AGA sponsoring the >>Showcase/Contest, I have the feeling that the AGA is alive and well with a >>wonderful reputation in the industry. > >I think that is true. Amano paid to fly Neil Frank to his Aquatic Plant >Summit in Japan a couple of years ago as the representative of AGA. Amano >takes us seriously, so does Tropica and Dupla. I think people in the >industry take us seriously. > >>However, from what I have heard on >>this list, I am beginning to wonder about it. > >I find it interesting that most of the complainers are not even members. >When they _were_ members, did they try to help out? Or did they only >complain, or as we've seen on this list, stamp their feet and leave if >things didn't go their way? > >George is a different story. Don't get me wrong, I _LIKE_ George, and I >_think_ the feeling is mutual. But George has an axe to grind with one >specific member of AGA who _not_ even a member of the Management Committee. > >>If no one else is concerned, and the little rumblings I have been detecting >>don't really mean anything, so be it. I think I can live with it. > >I willingly admit that there are things about the AGA that could be better, >especially if we had more help. But it's a _good_ group of people, and I >believe it's a worthy cause. You can join us in trying to make it even >better, or not, as you see fit. I hope you are the type who'd rather work >to improve something than to sit around grumbling, complaining and doing >absolutely nothing. > >Karen