>We are not alone..... > >>>>> >Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:57:21 +0530 >To: gomberg@wcf.com >From: john glaeser <jglaeser@facstaff.wisc.edu> >Subject: Madison Aquatic Gardeners >X-Rcpt-To: gomberg@wcf.com > >Hello Dave, > >What a relief it must be to see the magazine launched! Is this anything >like flying a kite? Hope you will have a brisk breeze of interest and >response to sustain this latest adventure of yours. > >Our first club meeting was real special. 17 showed up. The enthusiasm was >infectious. I think this thing is a keeper. I'm including some observations. > > > >....... > >John G. Glaeser >402 N. Segoe Rd.#62A >Madison,WI 53705 >........ > > >_________________________________ >_________________________________ > > >Madison Aquatic Gardeners > >Observations of the meeting......... January 27, 2000, Olbrich Botanical >Gardens > >by John Glaeser > >This first meeting established the group as a club that plans to meet on a >monthly basis. No formal constitution exists at this time. The issue will >be addressed at a future meeting. The initial event was designed to >encourage participants to get acquainted, share ideas and develop >directions. John Glaeser is volunteering to provide a one year development >grant for the organization. This is to cover a variety of expenses such as >document copying, mailings, library development and refreshment expenses >for meetings, as needed. > >A BEGINNING > >We had a turn out of 17. Good showing! About 13 other interested >individuals were not able to make it for this one. Chances are we will see >some of them at future meetings. > >It was a spirited bunch. Spontaneous interactions and thoughtful ideas were >sure indicators our eclectic rummaging indeed would develop focus. Look for >this to happen in our next meeting scheduled for Thursday, February 24. We >are planning to meet again at Olbrich Botanical Gardens. Starting at 7:30 >PM will make it a bit easier for some. These arrangements will be confirmed >in the meeting agenda to come out the week prior. > >ITEM > >The essence of this focus is having one major presentation with Q & A each >meeting. Joel Redman will search for someone from the UW to join us next >time to explain water chemistry for the planted tank enthusiast. How about >making an audio recording of this and placing it in our library? > >Mark Adams would like to pursue an ongoing study of aquarium water >dynamics. As an example he shared his recent attempt using peat to reduce >water hardness. His conclusion: it is labor intensive, taking three weeks >and not worth it if one is in a weekly water change routine. RO is the way >to go. If you didn't make the meeting, when you do see him ask about it. >You will find a nice example of a disciplined scientific mind taking the >time to ask a good question and getting a good answer. > >In the "possible but impractical category", with low keyed whimsy Susan >West added that you can soften water by boiling it and letting it cool. The >calcium will deposit on the container wall and you will have soft water. Hmm. > >ITEM > >The round table format is important. Every meeting everyone can give an >update of their projects and also ask questions of the group. > >ITEM > >WEB search. Members are encouraged to search sites containing aquarium >plant information and then provide a brief report. Example: Aquatic Plant >Digest, a great place to get a daily stream of discussion about the >planted aquarium experience. Enter in the body of an e-mail : subscribe >aquatic plants. Send to: Majordomo@actwin.com. > >ITEM > >Great one-on-one conversations. During our informal mingling times >sometimes good information comes out and it would be neat if it could be >shared with the group as a whole. If something strikes you as worthy, >prepare a summary, e-mail it to John and he can make hard copies for >distribution at the next meeting. Materials like this can be put in the >club history file. When new members come in they can get a packet of copies. > >ITEM > >A lending library will be established to include recent and rare >publications. It should be ready by the end of February. John Glaeser will >develop a list of titles and will prepare a shelf near the plant tanks in >the Aquatic Specialties Store. Make suggestions for additions and we will >get them. > >ITEM > >Water testing equipment and chemistry collection will become available to >be loaned out. John will get this together and locate it at the lending >library site. > >ITEM > >Once the organization gets established and as fellowship develops we might >try the idea of having open house opportunities between the monthly meeting >dates. When anyone feels comfortable to have members drop over and check >out aquarium projects an invitation can be made at a regular meeting. > >ITEM > >The suggestion for a club project to create and maintain a plant / fish >aquarium at the Vilas Zoo is a sterling one. Sounds like a committee >assignment to explore the possibility. Thanks, Bill Benz. > >ITEM > >Refreshments at the meetings....good idea. Simple is good. Ideas? Let >John know. > >CONCLUSION > >Thanks to all for contributing so thoughtfully. The result was to point us >in a direction. This was precisely the goal of our first meeting. There is >intense exhilaration in taking the time to ask good questions and doing >what ever it takes to find good answers. Keep it up! > > > ><<<< > >-- >Dave Gomberg, San Francisco mailto:gomberg@wcf.com >NEW Planted Aquaria Magazine: http://www.wcf.com/pam >My aquarium plant supply store: http://www.wcf.com/store > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Send requests to sfbaaps-request@lists.best.com >Request should be the only thing in the message >To get the digest, the request is subscribe >For single-message format, request subsingle >To unsubscribe request unsubscribe ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate".