Dwight wrote: >Respectfully, I don't think I'm off-based in my assessment and I think its >in the long term best interest of our hobby for you "founders" to take more >of a personal interest in seeking ways to promote the "Environmentally >Responsible" angle of our hobby beyond your home regions (beyond just >seeking diverse convention lcations) . With an eye on encouraging the >formation of local self sustaining groups. These groups can serve as info >disseminators will give the general pubic a "warm-n'-fuzzy" feeling about >the benefits (environmental and otherwise) of planted Aquaria. I (and others) have addressed Dwight's unrealistic wish that others could come start up a local club for him in other posts. But I have to comment on this. (which, of course has nothing to do with the original conversation, so I have changed the header) It is in the long term best interest of this hobby (and this world) that EVERYONE become more environmentally aware and active. Did you know that New Hampshire slid some bad aquatic plant legislation by a few years back? Are you aware that the local aquarium and pond hobbyists have been working hard to have it rescinded or at least changed? Did you know that MA (my state) has appointed a task force to study the impact of invasive, non-native plants? Did you know that I (and other hobbyists and vendors) have been in direct, productive contact with our legislators working to make sure that any laws are fair and enforceable. That those laws will protect our waterways and at the same time not needlessly impact the aquarium hobby? Do you know that I have written about these issues both in my columns in national magazines and here on the APD? Have you noticed that several of us _immediately_ jump to educate people here on the list the minute a post comes up regarding hobbyists doing something that might negatively impact the environment? Do you know that when I am educating teachers on the use of aquariums in the classroom, one of the FIRST things we discuss is how to avoid a negative impact on our environment from the aquarium hobby? These are important issues, and ones that should _always_ be taken into considerations. But I know that there are people who ARE doing their part. Are you doing yours? This is not a personal challenge to you, Dwight, but to _everyone_ who reads this list. Think about it. Are we ALL doing our part. If we do, we can minimize the adverse effects of our hobby on the environment in the future. Cleaning up the ecological disasters that others have already made, particularly in the warm, southern states, is a different and very difficult issue. Few people have the time or money to turn these issues into a personal crusade. What we can _ALL_ do, is to do our part to educate others at every opportunity, and to make sure that all the decisions we make regarding our own participation in the hobby are carefully considered and environmentally sound. If, Dwight, you or other people care to spearhead a movement to create a "watchdog" committee to keep us all informed of changes and information on the environmental front, contact the AGA management committee, either through myself, or any other management committee member. (they are listed both in the front of TAG and on the AGA web site) I suspect that the AGA would welcome involvement of that type from an enthusiast member! But don't expect "them" to do it for you, because as I said at the beginning of this post, "them" is "us" and we _all_ need to do our part. Karen ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-mcm" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-mcm-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm When asked, log in as username is "aga-mcm", and password "incorporate".