Just to clarify the two previous e-mails, the discussion is about to close on whether to take out a $300 full-page ad in PAM #3, so that we can vote and give Dave an answer. ("PAM Ad Issue #1") Discussion is now OPEN on on the new issue of whether we should change our "exchange" ad in PAM #4 to reflect the conference. ("PAM Ad Issue #2") My suspicion is that we will quash this second issue pretty quickly based on PAM's publishing schedule... Even if it gets back on time, the earliest we'd see #4 would be Mid-November, right? So we would not be able to present any useful information on the conference. It is unfortunate that the timing is bad (Dave calls Bob with 1 week left before publication. Bob e-mails Erik. Erik forwards e-mail to list 16 hours later. List is read 24+ hours later). We cannot give Dave an answer right now, but I think by sticking with our ~1 week of discussion and then a quick vote afterward, then we will be more expedient than Dave has seen us in the past. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com