Erik, Great job on the summary of panel discussion!! Only suggested change is last sentence: "...allow the nutrients from the added fertilizer to circulate through the roots..." --> allow the nutrients from the added fertilizer to circulate through the roots... if they are chelated they will remain soluble even in aerobic areas. [I think that is what I said... or what I was thinking] :-) If Mary is agreeable, the panel summary can make a nice article for TAG. Just a suggestion. Also, you can add Paul's interesting comment that B-G gets weaker and maybe stops putting out toxins when it is kept in the dark for a period. Then ramshorn snails eat it.[Paul had other interesting comments too, but I can't remember them ;-)] On business meeting summary, I note that Dave Gomberg agreed to work with Mary to provide her with cost-efficient ways to produce color in TAG. It is up to Mary.