----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary McCaw" <marymccaw@mediaone.net> To: "Aga-Mcm@Thekrib.Com" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:06 AM Subject: Fw: More On TAG/PAM/Interaction/Communication > This is my reply to Eric which I sent him last night and and cc.'d to the > SC: > > > > > > This is a reply to a message from Mary, which bounced to me directly as > > > list maintainer. I am replying to the points anyway. > > > > > > Mary writes today: > > > > > > "Kathy Olson called me last night, and I thought she made a good > > > suggestion. She said that when Dave approches any of us about something, > > > we say, "I'll discuss it with the MC and get back to you." The MC > should > > > then give him a date by which he can expect a decision since he gets > antsy > > > about deadlines." > > > > > > But if you read back through the mail on the 16th, you'll see this is > > > EXACTLY what I did. He asked about an article, and I layed out exactly > > > what our plans were for TAG, said "maybe we can come up with some kind > of > > > compromise, but I need to check with the Mary, James and the MC first." > > > There is NO AGREEMENT, and I have not written back to Dave since Friday. > > > I am now very antsy about getting back very soon. > > > > No, tha tisn't what you did. You and Dave discussed a plan which you then > > brought back to the committee. What I am saying is that you shouldn't let > > it go that far. If he presents a plan say something to the effect that > you > > would rather not discuss the details, but will to talk to the MC first. > > > > > > Mary continues: > > > > > > "No, I don't really think that because of my feelings the AGA shouldn't > > > publicize the showcase in PAM. I will back down from my position on the > > > condition that we adopt Kathy suggestion as outlined above in dealing > with > > > Dave." > > > > > > So you are saying that it is OK to go forward and negotiate with Dave. > I > > > will ask the steering committee about this right now. As far as I'm > > > concerned, I did exactly what you are "stipulating" in your condition. > > > > I don't think you did. When one develops a plan, this pushes things along > > one step farther. The plan then takes on a life of its own. Take a step > > back and consider your reaction. You got upset because you said the last > > three ideas you had were shot down. Then everybody else feels a certain > > pressure to comply. I am saying that you should stop Dave before it gets > to > > the point where a plan is developed. If you still don't understand, ask > > Kathy. She'll explain it to you. > > > > > > Because this is a very touchy issue, I am forwarding this to the > steering > > > committee to get a response and ruling to go ahead and negotiate with > > > Dave. Time is precious here. > > > > That's fine with me. But I mean it about Dave. In theMC, we say so many > > things that we don't follow through on. We have all agreed that the MC is > > advisory and the SC makes the decisions, but sometimes we follow this, and > > sometimes we don't. It seems to me that we are consistently inconsistent. > > I want you to really hear what I am saying. Sometime down the road I > don't > > want to get another MC communication where Dave has contacted you, you and > > he come up with a plan, you get all fired up about it, hoping for a > positive > > response, and then are upset because someone objects to your plan. I am > > saying ,"Take it to the MC before making a plan and beginning to negotiate > > with Dave." I hope you now understand because I don't know how to be any > > clearer. > > > > Mary