Re: [AGA-mcm] ACA Spy Report, lessons to learn #126, "purpose of the convention"

[Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>]

The whole ACA members and worse non-members selling
fish out of the room thing has been discussed ad
naseum on many lists. It really is not a problem for
us (AGA) yet.

 Unfortunately, there is no easy answer. We as a club
either AGA or ACA can not regulate what someone does
in their private hotel room. We do not have the right
nor the means or desire to do so.

The only thing we can do is try to ensure that
everyone in the hotel is a registered club member and
do not let people advertise their lists on hotel
doors, etc. 

The alternative is we just accept it and sell
advertising space on a board in the lobby like the ACA
does. I don't think this would be a good move for us
at this point. We don't have a problem yet why would
we want to create it?


Yes, there is money to be made selling fish. No IMO we
do not have a "better sense of community" than the
ACA. Just look at all of the grumbling from this years
convention. As we get bigger we can expect more of it.
People tend to like to complain more than they like to
work to change things. However, the ACA certainly has
it's share of good people too just like the AGA. 

The bottom line is that we very much alike with the
exception that the typical median income of an AGA
attendee is higher than that of a typical ACA
attendee. Therefore there is more of a threshold to
pay a higher amount per member for conventions,etc.,
and less of a need for members to have their hobby pay
for itself.



Regards,
Larry


--- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
wrote:

> Erik Olson wrote:
> > 
> > You can't enforce what people sell out of their
> rooms.  
> 
> Absolutely. And I don't think we should police that
> (at this time).
> 
> I was wrong about my earlier question/comment. In
> the convention doc, it 
> says that *buyers* must be registered for the
> convention (Scott--because of 
> the non-profit thing?).
> 
> But here's a quote from 2.7.4.        "Each seller must be
> a member of the Local 
> or the AGA unless the seller donates the proceeds in
> full to the Convention."
> 
> But this rule applies only to the auction--in the
> convention doc, we do not 
> address the question of whether people may sell out
> of their rooms. And I 
> don't think we should, at this time.
> 
>   The
> > problem is, I think, more of an ethical one for
> the ACA.  People at the 
> > AGA conventions (and maybe plant hobbyists as a
> whole) still seem 
> > overall interested in "supporting the AGA".  
> 
> Yes. I agree. Are cichlids bigger money than plants?
> I suspect so. I don't 
> really know. So I should siddown and shaddup now.
> :-)
> 
> Perhaps we in the AGA enjoy more of a sense of
> community than we thought. 
> Good. Then I am in the right place.
> 
> Cheryl
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