Re: [AGA-mcm] busted amano talk on 2001 video

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

Personally, I can't see redoing the disk -- especially if
it means recapturing all the hours of video from the tape.
I also can't see offering replacements that haven't been
asked for. Besides being a lot of work, it would be mucho
expensive. 

It's not so much that it isn't noticeable as it is a matter
of translated mon-the-fly-material and I expected a delay
anyhow. Sure, Tomoko actually is faster than that, but it
just didn't matter much to me.

sh.
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:

> Paul, I took a look, and you're completely right.  There
> is NO SOUND AT 
> ALL for the first 20 seconds of visual, and then it kicks
> in.  It only 
> appears to be relevant to the lecture.  So THANKS for
> spotting it.  I have 
> no idea how this got onto the master at all, and more
> importantly, why 
> NOBODY has noticed it yet.  Clearly I'm going to have to
> send replacements 
> to everyone at some point.
> 
> Now the bad news.  In order to produce a new disk, I will
> have to 
> recapture all the original footage off tape and re-render
> every talk for 
> the whole disk from scratch.  As I have a new baby in the
> house (and a 
> computer that isn't working quite right at the moment), I
> literally may 
> not be able to get this done for months.  If you want a
> quick response, I 
> will refund your money for the one DVD.  If you can hang
> tight for a bit 
> (maybe weeks, not months), I will send you a disk with
> JUST amano's talk 
> (rendered at higher bitrate -- gotta give you something
> for being 
> patient), as well as the full disk when that's done.  Let
> me know your 
> preference, and thanks again for your patience.
> 
>    - Erik
> 
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Paul Garrity wrote:
> 
> > Amono's lips are never in sync anyhow because of
> translator, but the 
> > translators narrative does not correspond with the
> slide show. Then when 
> > question & answer takes place after slide show the
> delay continues. Its so 
> > subtle I was half way through the slide show before I
> realized the slide she 
> > was describing was not the one on the screen. My first
> thought was that I 
> > might be loosing my mind. His second talk "Live Aqua
> Demo" is fine. And so is 
> > the rest of the DVD. Based on what you are saying about
> tracks this might be 
> > the same problem on all of your 2001 disks.
> >
> > Paul
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Olson"
> <erik@thekrib.com>
> > To: "Paul Garrity" <pgarrity@mn.rr.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: Notification of payment received
> >
> >
> >> At the start of the talk, does it appear in sync?
> >> 
> >> At the *end* of the talk, does the delay clearly
> continue, as in Mr. 
> >> Amano's mouth move but you can't hear anything, even
> in the background?
> >> 
> >> One possibility here is that the 20 seconds is just
> how the talk went. with 
> >> the overlayed translation and all.
> >> 
> >> What's funny here is that there aren't really "tracks"
> per se, but one 
> >> single track with chapter stops... that's the way
> ReelDVD masters disks. 
> >> I'll go look at the master disk too & see if I can see
> a similar effect.
> >> 
> >>   - Erik
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Paul Garrity wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Erik
> >>> 
> >>> I checked 2000, 2001 & 2002. All okay except for the
> track mentioned 
> >>> (track one 2001). Maybe you should check another disk
> to see if that track 
> >>> is bad on all disks. It is very subtle as the delay
> is actually about 20 
> >>> seconds, with the narrative following the photo. I
> was about half way 
> >>> through program before it became apparent.
> >>> 
> >>> Paul
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Olson"
> <erik@thekrib.com>
> >>> To: <pgarrity@mn.rr.com>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:41 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Notification of payment received
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Hi Paul,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Was just checking the records for your address &
> noticed you were the guy 
> >>>> who ordered our entire catalog!  Before I send of
> another 2001 disk, can 
> >>>> you check some of the other disks to see if you get
> that same "30 second 
> >>>> delay" phenomenon?  I mastered 2000, 2001 and 2002
> in the same timeframe, 
> >>>> so they might exhibit the same symptoms for you.
> >>>> 
> >>>>   - Erik
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 pgarrity@mn.rr.com wrote:
> >>>> 
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> >>>>> 
> >>>>> This email confirms that you have received a
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> >>>> 
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