On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Karen Randall wrote:
In which case, why is he the "official" photographer?
Ah, I figured sooner or later this would be brought up. We're going to have to make some kind of decision on this.Jay came to us about this time last year, offering to help the AGA by photographing the convention. In talks, this turned out to be somewhat more grand than that, as he also wanted a title of official convention photographer, and wanted to manage the online slide show of the convention. There was a little ambiguity over the meaning of "Convention Photo Gallery" -- I interpreted it to mean the collection of photos of the convention on the web; Jay interpreted it to mean Interactive Photo Gallery Software that would later be also used to host photos of ... [we never got that far].
The proposal that officially was approved was: "Proposal 04-084: Grant Jay Luto the title Convention Photographer, with credit on the AGA website, and job description to include creating a gallery for the 2004 convention of his and others' photos."
My thought at the time was "let's try it for a year and see how things go"... I think I even stated that to Jay and this list. Jay, I think, thought of the position as ongoing.
As many of you know, things did not go particularly well. I think that both Jay and the board were none-too-pleased with the relationship. From Jay's perspective, the board were a bunch of ungrateful snobs always asking for more, trying to keep him from setting up an interactive photo gallery, not acknowledging the work, and not using his work enough in the printed material. And I will say from the board's perspective, Jay came into this with that uniquotous "The AGA is broken. I will fix it with Photo Gallery Software!" attitude, but the final product didn't really add much to what we already had in previous years.
Looking at the stats page, it shows that there was an initial surge right after the convention, but it dropped down to essentially NIL within a month or two. (removing the page pulls from web spiders, in december, about 2000 hits on the convention gallery page, 1200 hits in January, 200 in February, negligable in March). The page for the 2003 convention got only a few hundred hits the month it went live, but then again, it also didn't have Amano, or someone pushing its existence on the forums.
From my personal observation, the problem was that Jay wanted to do "Jay'sthing" based on his other work. And what he thought was the best for the AGA were low-resolution web photos on an interactive photo gallery (though I offered him the option of hosting it on any software on any of his favorite sites, in reality *I* set up the gallery program, and typed in 90% of the captions on it). What the AGA *needed* was someone to collect original digitals from everyone, including Jay himself, to be put on DVD-ROM and sent to Karen and Cheryl for TAG and later archives. With a minor amount of tweaking, his goals could have been compatible with the AGA's goals, but he couldn't (or wouldn't) do that.
And what we have as a record of the 2004 convention are a bunch of low-resolution photos with Jay's and others' copyright burned in. In fact, your note is timely, as I Scott tipped me off yesterday that the gallery was busted -- probably during my software upgrade last month -- and if it hadn't fixed itself when I upgraded the software, I wouldn't really have known how to extract the comments with the photos. It's a mess. I'm now STUCK using this wretched software on the website.
Anyway, someone feel free to make a proposal. :) - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com _______________________________________________ AGA-mcm mailing list AGA-mcm@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm