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Re: [AGA-mcm] Potential AGAF staff



I like the idea as a whole, and I REALLY like it as a way to share science/aquaria/simple experiments with educators!

As most of you know aquaria in schools has long been a pet project of mine.

Karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Lampert" <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Potential AGAF staff


I could also see it possibly including listings of
possible projects for all levels including grade
school students and teacher type projects.

Some could be guided by forum members upon request
others may be following preset formulas to emphasize a
scientic point like basic photosynthesis or nutrient
uptake for classroom demonstrations. Others may be
more freeform with just a simple control to help prove
or disprove a theory like Paul was talking about
regarding time from cut to ship on stem plants.

It does not have to be peer reviewed AGA approved
science at all. Just a place for plant folks to tinker
and get assistance when needed.

Other's could be much more advanced. Lot's of places
we could play in. Either way I like the idea.

Regards,
Larry Lampert

--- Paul Krombholz <pkrombholz@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>What do you envisage to be AGA's role re
expermentats?
>
>sh
>


Hardly anything.  No research committee; no funding.
 If AGA goes
ahead with the forum, AGA would just support a forum
on
experimentation and, if we can get anybody to do
some simple
experiments, we can get some TAG articles out of
them.

(There is a language problem:  A forum like APC has
forums on various
subjects and even sub-forums within a forum.)


The emphasis should be on simple experiments.  I
think that many
would-be experimenters feel that the experiment has
to be
mind-numbingly complex with double blind
experimentors and advanced
statistics.  Everybody should know about one of the
great experiments
of all time on plants by Von Helmont.  For 800 years
everybody
believed that Aristotle was correct in saying that
plants got all
their substance from the soil.  Von Helmont decided
to test that
claim.  He got a tub of soil, weighed the soil,
rooted a small willow
branch, planted it in the tub, grew it for five
years, then weighed
the willow tree and all its shed leaves and weighed
the soil again.
The tree gained something like 100 lbs (I don't
remember exactly how
much), whereas the soil only lost about a pound.  So
much for
Aristotle's claim!  Nice and simple, and you can't
argue with the
results.
--
Paul Krombholz in humid central Mississippi, where I
heard some
thunder rumbling to the North, but nothing here.
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