A good proposal, regardless of how it was developed, will make the AGA feel good ;-) I won't attempt to explain Erik's words, but I'm not sure he meant them exactly as you have taken them. At any rate, I offer the following: The square footage needed depends on the attendance. I believe you have attendance info already on recent previous AGA events, as well as roomnights reserved, etc. No past AGA convention has reached 200 paid attendees. 2003 had 121 registrants, 108 paid registrants, iirc. AGA 2004, which was more expensive for attendees but with Amano and a great location with easy and cheap access to restaurants and site-seeing locations had about 140 paid registrants, iirc. The banquet and main speaker room needs to be large enough to handle the attendance you anticipate and the hotel can advise you on whther they have rooms or appropriate size. Afaik, the AGA is unaware of whether you will have break-out groups, simultaneous speakers, etc, that will break the attendance into multiple, smaller groups. So the square footage requirements can depend in part on those things. You might need space or rooms for: some storage for various items related to the conducting the auction(s), such as computers, tickets, etc. registration/sign-in "booth" a place to secure any auction donations that arrive ahead of the auction -- this might also involve the need to make arangements with the hotel to receive and/or store these goods if they are delivered to the hotel. The month or date of the AGA convention is not fixed. It's occurence in November mostly has been a matter of avoiding conflicts with other aquatic hobby events and holidays. The vendor area needs to be a securable area. Since employing security staff or asking club staff to stand vigil all night is generally considered an unreasonable expense or task, the choice is made to have the vendors in an area that can be locked. Given that the security critierion is satisfied, it is critical that the vendor area be near the action and not, as sometimes happens at some conventions, in another end of the hotel from the main talks. The vendors need the security for there goods and displays and desire as much exposure as possible. As you point out, in practice these two goals are not entirely compatible. It might be helpful to speak to some vendors that are likely to participate while still dickering with the hotels. Lastly, the vendors need to know well in advance of the convention the specific times when they will be allowed to set up and tear down and where any storage space, if needed, will be provided. Their travel and daily schedules will be based on these times. Of course, they also need to know ahead of time where to go and who to see when they are ready to set up. It always help to have someone present at "set up time" to ensure that the hotel is ready for them to set up and to address any issues that come up (electrical supply, table arrangement, table cloths, or chairs, etc.) and to ensure that the vendor reps feel respected and their support appreciated by the host and AGA. Hope that helps, sh --- Michael Skidmore <mskidmore@alamedanet.net> wrote: > . . . The > one element of > guidance I noticed is lacking from the guidelines is the > square footage of > the conf. area expected. I will go on my past exp. And > anticipate the need > for 1 hosp suite, 1 speaker ready room, and a conf room > with space for 150 > -200. > What isn't clear to me is if you would prefer > vendor tables around the > perimeter of the conf room (to maximize mingling) or in > an adjacent room > which is quieter for main session but draws vendors away > to tend their > tables. If there are other space needs or nice to haves, > let us know and > well tell you what we find. We have already established > an agenda, sample > brochures, side events and recruited very experienced > local help from SVAS > and ACA as mentors and sources of volunteers. > If you > were willing to have > it early, Sacramento would love to do a joint convention > with FINDIG and AGA > combined. But they meet annually two weeks earlier, on > last weekend of Oct. > _______________________________________________ AGA-mcm mailing list AGA-mcm@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm