I hate it when I can't find a reference, and with the comments here now I doubt my memory of what I thought I read.. Anyway, the best way for me to explain my experience with the lobelia is this: When I got it, my plant looked exactly like the plant pictured on p. 110 of the Aquarium Plant handbook from Oriental Aquarium. (However this picture and my plant does not look like the lobelia pictured at Tropica - http://www.aqua-plants.com/plantspages/lobelia-cardinalis.html ) When I bought mine the lower leaves were a deeper, almost olive colored green, with the top leaves almost the color of burgundy. Definitely purpleish wine color. The edges of the leaves at the upper middle of the plant also had this winish color. Within a week of placing it in the tank under direct light (a 2x65 watt powercompact with 10k bulbs) the entire plant was a bright green with no traces of the original bugundy color. It now looks exactly like the lobelia pictured on p. 346 of Kasselmann's Aquarium Plants. Then I read somewhere that intense light can 'bleach', for lack of a better term, the color from some plants leaving them with only their green pigment. So I took a stem from the high light tank and put it in a tank with only 45 watts of flors and within a week or so I did get some of the original color back on the edges of the top leaves. But after a couple weeks it didn't look like it was forming any new leaves so I took it out and returned it to the high light tank. Oh yes, the plants are about 14" from the light source in each tank. I have another stem plant which is also supposed to have reddish pigment (as it did when I bought it) and it responded the same way to the same test. So that's why I was thinking of dropping down in wattage. As long as that won't the color of my other plants which are nicely red. I really liked the lobelia when it looked like Oriental Aquarium's picture. I don't care much for it looking like it does in Kasselmans.. ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/