Yes, I do the DIY CO2 also. I have made my own reactor to desolve the CO2 into the water it's a cut of water bottle on the end on my eheim the co2 goes into their and the water flow seems to do a preety good job at thrashing the CO2 around with the water in their. Seems to work not to bad sence if i cut of the co2 supply off to it all the co2 in the bottle is gone and desolved into the water within about 3-4 hours. Thanks i will try to find some of the narrow leaf java fern. In a message dated 1/30/2004 10:46:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, aglass@wi.rr.com writes: I have been using Narrow Leaf Java Fern attached to wood with success in high light tanks. I am using CO2 but I have found that doing weekly water changes (I use straight from the tap) and weekly dosing with the Seachem products (I just follow the written directions on the bottles) works for me and keeps them going quite well. If you are running a small tank (under 50 gallons) and want to try CO2 just set up a do-it-yourself setup with yeast. It is cheap and simple, I have run it on my 20 and 40 gallon tanks with no problems. I usually run two 2-liter bottles in tandem and can get a 3-4 week charge out of them before redoing the mixture. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/