More On TAG/PAM/Interaction/Communication

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

This is a reply to a message from Mary, which bounced to me directly as
list maintainer.  I am replying to the points anyway.

Mary writes today:

"Kathy Olson called me last night, and I thought she made a good
suggestion. She said that when Dave approches any of us about something,
we say, "I'll discuss it with the MC and get back to you."  The MC should
then give him a date by which he can expect a decision since he gets antsy
about deadlines."

But if you read back through the mail on the 16th, you'll see this is
EXACTLY what I did.  He asked about an article, and I layed out exactly
what our plans were for TAG, said "maybe we can come up with some kind of
compromise, but I need to check with the Mary, James and the MC first."
There is NO AGREEMENT, and I have not written back to Dave since Friday.
I am now very antsy about getting back very soon.

Mary continues:

"No, I don't really think that because of my feelings the AGA shouldn't
publicize the showcase in PAM. I will back down from my position on the
condition that we adopt Kathy suggestion as outlined above in dealing with
Dave."

So you are saying that it is OK to go forward and negotiate with Dave.  I
will ask the steering committee about this right now.  As far as I'm
concerned, I did exactly what you are "stipulating" in your condition.

Because this is a very touchy issue, I am forwarding this to the steering
committee to get a response and ruling to go ahead and negotiate with
Dave.  Time is precious here.

  - Erik




























>
> > I can't believe that you are saying that I'm not playing
> |> nice after what he put you through over the contest ad in PAM.
>
> He didn't "put me through" anything.  He made some claims I didn't agree
> with.  There is no question that I got irritated with him.  So I called
him
> on it.  I _told_ him how I felt, and what I believed was fair.  He backed
> down immediately.  One phone call that ended pleasantly, and got AGA
exactly
> what it wanted.  I have less satisfactory endings to conflicts with my
> children on a daily basis.<g>
>
> > Okay, according to your perception, I am not playing nice, but he was an
> > out and out bully and you're defending him!
>
> First, I've never met a bully that you could reason with.  There is no
> question that Dave requires some "management".  But he's not the only
> worthwhile person in the world that this can be said of.
>
> Second, as far as defending him is concerned, of course I'll defend him
when
> he's done nothing wrong.  He was wrong about the AGA/PAM ad issue, and I
> told him so.  He backed down gracefully, apologized, and has gone forward
to
> work for the benefit of AGA.
>
> He's right this time, and _you_ are wrong about his motives.  If anyone
were
> to attack your character and motives, I would defend you too.
>
> > Personal feelings aside,   I have suggested a compromise of giving him
> some
> > material for PAM 5.  I am willing to go along with giving him some
> material
> > on this basis.
>
> Then you are effectively saying that you (and because of your feelings,
AGA)
> are not interested PAM's  participation in publicizing the showcase.  I
> don't want to read about the showcase in PAM next summer.  We'll be well
> into planning the next contest by then.  If that is truly AGA's stance,
then
> we need to be honest about it and tell Dave now, so that he can plan his
> editorial calandar.  But if I were Dave, and AGA shut me off on this
> subject, I probably wouldn't bother offering them a 2 page spread again
very
> quickly.
>
> Let me point out that if Dave WERE interested in "scooping" us, or
gathering
> material without us, all he has to do is pull the information off the APD
on
> Nov. 30th, and approaching the winners individually for their permission
and
> their "story".  AGA does not "own" these photos.  We only own the right to
> use the photos as we see fit.
>
> He is _NOT_ going to do that, so don't get upset about it.  But he _could_
> legally do it, and there's not a thing we could do about it.  All he would
> be doing would be printing a factual "news" story.  He _wants_ to see both
> TAG, and you as its editor, succeed.
>
> Karen
>
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> End of MCM - Digest V1 #405
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>



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