Hi there, I would like to schedule some time at the conference for the five of us and maybe Jack to sit down with Dave and discuss the current proposal, possibly approve it. Dave has suggested 7 AM Saturday at the Clarion -- would that work? I have enclosed my latest proposal to Dave at the end of this message. His main stickling point right now is that he does not want to charge the AGA $3.75 per copy because he does not think he can break even at this rate long-term, and he also has a long-term goal of expanding the size of the magazine to 64 pages per issue. He has suggested that increasing the number of ads to 17 from his current 11, and charging the AGA $5.50 per issue ($22 per year) will allow PAM to break even. His words: "This isn't the AGA's problem, and I don't exactly have a solution." Here is my proposal: Proposal for AGA-PAM Partnership 31-October-2001 Erik Olson Initial: AGA eats overhead of transition from TAG to the more expensive PAM, both for existing PAM subscribers and AGA members existing AGA-only memberships (~600) receive PAM for equivalent quarters remaining on current membership existing PAM-only subscriptions (~300) receive prorated free AGA membership for remainder of current subscription overlapping members (~150) extend joint membership based on remaining quarters in each. New Members: continue parallel PAM and AGA subscription/membership options "AGA - Featuring PAM" AGA may solicit new memberships at a rate of its choosing (suggest $20/year) AGA sends PAM mailing list & pays PAM $3.75 per member per issue at time of mailing each issue "PAM - Now including free AGA membership" PAM may solicit new subscriptions at a rate of its choosing PAM sends AGA $1.25 per subscriber per quarter to cover AGA membership Initially there will be no database merging, aside from a one-time synchronization of overlapping members TBD. Both parties exchange electronic lists/databases at publication time. AGA Business Section in PAM, Articles, and Editorial Control issues: PAM will provide, free of charge, a (two? four? XXX)-page spread which the AGA will fill with official business such as announcements or ads. Any additional space will need to be negotiated on an as-needed basis. Actual ARTICLES originating from inside the AGA will be given the same consideration as other articles submitted for publication to PAM, i.e. on the basis of quality and relevance. The AGA will not have any special editorial priveliges, aside from the option to terminate (see below). Back-Issues: The AGA will purchase an assortment of back issues of PAM (number? XXX) at the rate of $XXX per copy. These will be offered to members via the AGA's back-issue/bookstore sales program. Termination: Either party may terminate with 6 months written notice. -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "showy".