Re: Meeting to talk with Dave at Chattanooga

[nfrank@mindspring.com]

7am is fine with me. How about 7a-8:00a. Always nice to know when it is 
supposed to end :-)

Eric's proposal sounds fine regarding the "initial" phase. I suspect Dave will 
agree to $15, as long as there is other money coming in via our purchase of 
back issues. [each $900 worth is ~equivalent to $1.50 extra per member]. 
However, before we can seal a deal, I think we will need to respond now to his 
current goal of expanding PAM and increasing the per issue fee.... So, it would 
be helpful to see where we all stand before the meeting with him if we want to 
be prepared to approve an agreement at the meeting. For example, would we be 
willing to pay PAM $15 per year for some period of time (say 2 years) after 
which time we agree to a "reasonable" increase (say +$5 to bring our share to 
$20). We might want to discuss a cap for at least XX years.
Neil
PS. Made my airline reservations today. Thought I might drive until I realized 
the drive was not as direct as I thought. Those darn Appalachians!

aga-sc@thekrib.com wrote:
> Hi there,
I would like to schedule some time at the conference for the five of us
and maybe Jack to sit down with Dave and discuss the current proposal,
possibly approve it.  Dave has suggested 7 AM Saturday at the Clarion --
would that work?

I have enclosed my latest proposal to Dave at the end of this message.
His main stickling point right now is that he does not want to charge the
AGA $3.75 per copy because he does not think he can break even at this
rate long-term, and he also has a long-term goal of expanding the size of
the magazine to 64 pages per issue.  He has suggested that increasing the
number of ads to 17 from his current 11, and charging the AGA $5.50 per
issue ($22 per year) will allow PAM to break even.  His words: "This isn't
the AGA's problem, and I don't exactly have a solution."

Here is my proposal:

Proposal for AGA-PAM Partnership
31-October-2001
Erik Olson


Initial: AGA eats overhead of transition from TAG to the more expensive PAM, 
both
         for existing PAM subscribers and AGA members

        existing AGA-only memberships (~600) receive PAM for equivalent quarters
          remaining on current membership
        existing PAM-only subscriptions (~300) receive prorated free AGA 
membership
          for remainder of current subscription
        overlapping members (~150) extend joint membership based on remaining 
quarters
          in each.


New Members: continue parallel PAM and AGA subscription/membership options


    "AGA - Featuring PAM"
        AGA may solicit new memberships at a rate of its choosing (suggest 
$20/year)
        AGA sends PAM mailing list & pays PAM $3.75 per member per issue at
          time of mailing each issue

    "PAM - Now including free AGA membership"
        PAM may solicit new subscriptions at a rate of its choosing
        PAM sends AGA $1.25 per subscriber per quarter to cover AGA membership

        Initially there will be no database merging, aside from a one-time 
synchronization
        of overlapping members TBD.  Both parties exchange electronic 
lists/databases
        at publication time.
        

AGA Business Section in PAM, Articles, and Editorial Control issues:

        PAM will provide, free of charge, a (two? four? XXX)-page spread which 
the AGA will
        fill with official business such as announcements or ads.  Any 
additional
        space will need to be negotiated on an as-needed basis.

        Actual ARTICLES originating from inside the AGA will be given the same
        consideration as other articles submitted for publication to PAM, i.e. 
on the
        basis of quality and relevance.

        The AGA will not have any special editorial priveliges, aside from the 
option
        to terminate (see below).


Back-Issues:

        The AGA will purchase an assortment of back issues of PAM (number? XXX) 
at
        the rate of $XXX per copy.  These will be offered to members via the 
AGA's
        back-issue/bookstore sales program.


Termination:

        Either party may terminate with 6 months written notice.



-- 
Erik Olson
erik at thekrib dot com

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