Hi folks, Just a quick update. Dave has come to the conclusion that PAM's business plan is inherently flawed and that if he doesn't jack up the prices and circulation soon, there is no long-term viability for PAM. Unfortunately, he has decided to do this particular analysis as part of the PAM-AGA negotiation, and his current proposals all pretty much center on a $25 per year payment to PAM (aka $30 per year membership to AGA). I have stuck very strongly to the notion that I beleive AGA members will not pay much more than about $20 per year (personally, I think PAM subscribers won't pay much more than that either, so he's going to see a sharp dropoff in his 450 members, if he hasn't already with his weird 3-year membership requirements). I have made it clear that we will have no deal if we can't keep the membership costs low, and he's made it clear that he doesn't want to cut author salaries or printing costs. So, unfortunately, we are at an impasse. I am still planning on talking to him tonight, and I would still like you all to particupate in the time-limited meeting on Saturday to at least discuss this with him, but things seem pretty bleak right now. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "showy".