Re: Motion on TAG

["David VillaSunscape" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>]

I guess we can discuss a motion without it being seconded -- hopefully when
folks get to their compuiters someone will second it
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Motion on TAG

> > David's motion above will be Proposition 01-01.
>
> Though I cannot second it, I can discuss.  I think this is doable (I'm
> guessing our annual income is around $12k these days, and probably THE
> most important thing we have is really still TAG.  It needs to be more
> regular and have more committment behind it).

Couldn't agree more! TAG (including books etc.) and the Convention are the
two main things we offer to members -- and we should try and make both of
them terrific, and also self-supporting

>
> But perhaps a little more fleshing out of the proposal is needed:
>
> For one thing, would this person be able to hold a board position?  (Darn
> it, I need to have a copy of our articles of incorporation up on the web.
> David, can you send this to me?).  In the ACA, there was a
> conflict-of-interest problem where a board member was also paid for
> services rendered, and was doing it quasi-illegally (ACA paid the printer,
> the printer paid the person).

The Board is the 5 members unless we want to expand it. Committee heads are
appointed by the Board and serve, along with 3 of the Board of Directors, on
the Executive Committee (our old Management Committee). The Board can
designate any compensation we want for committee heads -- I believe our only
limitation is that Officers cannot receive compensation.

>
> Another question is, would the duties of the editor include interfacing
> with advertisers (should we need the increased revenue), or would that be
> a separate person? i.e., how far would these responsibilities go?
> Personally, I think that even if we didn't think we had the budget for
> paying some of the staff AND printing in color, we could EASILY make this
> up by selling a couple full page ads per issue.  Perhaps this is a
> discussion for later down the line, but I'm curious where the thinking
> lies.  Also, when you look at the other motion below, we would have a
> precedent for ads, and this would open the door to selling others easily.

The Chairperson of the Publication Committee (actually, any committee
chairperson) can designate members of their committee and decide if anyone
is getting paid. I would think that the first thing the new Publication
Committee/TAG Editor would do would be to draft someone to take charge of
getting ads for TAG.

>
> > > I move the following: David Lass, Treasurer of AGA, be deputized to
begin
> > discussions with Aqua Design Amano (ADA) as to how AGA might formalize a
> > relationship with him and his company. Specifically we will be looking
for
> > two things: 1) ADA will send AGA two articles each quarter, with photos,
> > which we will have translated from Japanese into English. These will be
> > published each quarter in TAG in a section called "The Amano Corner" (or
> > the like) 2) In exchange for these articles TAG will give ADA 2 pages of
> > advertising in each issue. 3) AGA will begin to offer ADA products for
> > sale. We cannot buy in huge quantities, yet, and we will have to be
> > selective about what we offer. We will need from ADA a list of the
> > products, weights, costs to us and suggested sale prices.
> >
> > David's motion above will be Prop. 01-02.
>
> I thank David for his offer, and agree enthusiastically with provisions 1)
> and 2).  I am cautious about provision 3), because if it were anything
> more than books (many of which are already available in the US), the AGA
> would now have a "store", which means the AGA would have to have a
> "storekeeper".  Again, like with the ads, I think that if we actually HAD
> a "store", this would open the door for other cool things, like finally
> being able to sell T-shirts and pins online.  I'd like to hear David's
> ideas on this.

Yes -- that is my thought also -- that we would begin to have an AGA store
that would do more than back issues and books.
Dennis Hare could, I think, be the person to do this. He is retired from
running his large store, the Aquarium Center in Baltimore, and on the Sunday
lunch with Amano offered his warehouse as a place to keep the Amano stuff.

>
>   - Erik
>
> PS: On the Amano front, I just finished a 2-day marathon editing session
> on his talk from the convention.  Edited his 1.5 hour talk into 55 minutes
> by overlaying Tomoko's translation in many places, cleaning up slide
> transitions, cutting out pauses & back-translation during the Q&A.  It
> looks kinda pro.  Looking forward to editing the 3-camera footage of his
> workshop in a similar manner; goal is to fit both onto a 2-hour VHS tape.
> We might consider adding this to the possible "store" as there is most
> likely NOTHING like this available to North American audiences in which to
> see and hear him talk about his design philosophy.

Sounds terrific!! I bet we can sell piles of them. How much do they cost us
to produce -- just the cost per copy?

David

>
> --
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
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