Re: AGA (this is about TAG)

[Neil Frank <nfrank@mindspring.com>]

Those figures match my previous guestimates. The 3/2000 price would be for
a 32-36 page duotone issue, 900 or 950 copies which was the standard TAG
run , and the others would be double issues  or with color. As Karen
suggests, the $3000 would be the convention issue. At some point Mary's
printer's prices come into play and I cant comment on a possible price
jump. Also, I dont remember if the bills include the mailing cost or show
it separately.

Waiting a year before any dues increase makes perfect sense.

Neil

At 09:44 PM 1/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>If that's the case, I have those figures, it's just hard to tie them to
>anything specific, as I don't know for sure which issues they are to pay
>for, how many were printed, or how many pages.  My guess is that the highest
>one was the showcase issue:
>
>3/2000 bill $1,470
>6/2000 bill $2,165
>11/2000 bill $2,055
>1/2001 bill $3,000
>4/2001 bill $1,625
>
>The mailing for each of these was the same: $177 each time.
>
>Karen
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
>To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:30 PM
>Subject: Re: AGA (this is about TAG)
>
>
>> I think Neil was replying to my mail suggesting that we might be able to
>> make up the delta between the current black & white printing budget and
>> full-color by use of the ads.
>>
>>   - Erik
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Karen Randall wrote:
>>
>> > I don't know what this was in response to... I don't think I got
>whatever
>> > e-mail is quoted in this.  Can someone fill me in?
>> >
>> > Neil quoted:
>> >
>> > > If we had nominally 8-10
>> > > >ads even at $250 per ad, there is half the cost already, and one
>cannot
>> > > >convince me that it cost less than $2500 per issue with that duotone
>> > > >cardstock cover.
>> >
>> > And then wrote:
>> >
>> > > I used to print 900 copies and it did not cost that much... more like
>> > $1.50
>> > > an issue like I said. But, I am curious. David, what do the receipts
>from
>> > > Universal printers show. There should be some bills for $1400 and some
>for
>> > > $2300 (one sheet of color).  The price of $3-5K sounds pretty good for
>> > full
>> > > color... especially $3K. .. and expecially since BB's had much larger
>> > print
>> > > runs which also yield lower unit prices.
>> > > At this price, full color is a no brainer.
>> > >
>> > > I understood that BB printed around 2000 copies. Getting over
>1200-1500,
>> > > the price per issue becomes trivial.
>> > >
>> > > Regarding dues increase, I dont support an immediate increase. I think
>we
>> > > owe it to our original members to keep the dues at $15 for a while....
>I
>> > > suggest 6 months. That way they will hear about an increase after they
>get
>> > > 2 new issues of TAG.
>> >
>> > I don't know that anyone has suggested an immediate dues increase.  I
>know I
>> > wouldn't want to see one.  If we can possibly swing it without a HUGE
>loss,
>> > I'd really rather see us go a year and then raise the dues... It's much
>> > easier to justify at that point.
>> >
>> > Karen
>> >
>> >
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