Re: Long time!

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

Well, we'll see how this goes.  I called the bank and they won't do 
ANYTHING unless we can find the receipt for the check.  Unfortunately, I 
don't remember if we even got that.  Kathy handled it, so maybe she'll 
know.  I will report in when I have any news.  And yeah, you're right 
David, this should have been handled by the treasury, as should have been 
the payment for the auction and everything.  Next time for sure!  Thanks.

  - Erik

On Fri, 24 May 2002, David VillaSunscape wrote:

> I agree with what Karen has said, and think that we have to find out if the
> check was cashed or not -- if it was cashed and not by Frode we have to send
> him the $$. If it can be stopped that would be great.
> In the future why don't you let me take care of things like this -- that's
> my job. All you have to do is to tell me how much money to get to whom for
> what. You have enough stuff to do already, Eric, and you don't need to be
> bothered with stuff like this.
> Take care,
> David
> Re PayPal, I was suggesting that Frode set up to receive payment, and that
> we then make it to him.
> D
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@world.std.com>
> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Long time!
> 
> 
> > Hi Erik,
> >
> > I feel bad that you have gotten stuck with this mess. I think this gives
> us
> > a _really_ good reason to stick to lower-key prizes for the contest in the
> > future.
> >
> > In the mean time, we have to figure out what to do in this instance.
> It's
> > certainly not Frode's fault that this has gotten so messed up, and I think
> > we do owe it to him to straighten it out, even if it costs us money.
> >
> > I am absolutely positive that the bank can trace whether the check was
> paid
> > or not.  That was one of the responsibilites of my department when I
> worked
> > at the bank.  I wish that we could help get that done, but I suspect that
> > they will only give that information to the individual who purchased the
> > check to start with.
> >
> > IF the check has been negotiated, and the person who cashed it was NOT
> > Frode, the bank is responsible.  (whether we can enforce that
> > internationally or not is a different question, but let's skip that for
> now)
> > Most likely, the check is simply lost, and the bank can put a stop payment
> > on it, and reissue.  In the "old days" when I was in banking, a stop
> payment
> > on a bank check (which can ONLY be done in the case of a lost or stolen
> > check) cost about $25.  It's probably more now, but still way better than
> > $500.
> >
> > In the worst case scenario, we need to find a way to safely get the money
> to
> > Frode, even if it means that we just eat the first check.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: Long time!
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 24 May 2002, Karen Randall wrote:
> > >
> > > > Egads.  Can we get a stop payment put on the original check?  I know
> > that is
> > > > possible for a bank check drawn on an American bank in case of loss or
> > > > theft.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Let me give everyone a little background on this case, so that you know
> > > the timeline AND how frustrated I am:
> > >
> > > Frode won 1st place in the 2000 contest (November 2000).  First place
> was
> > > a bow-front All-Glass tank.  Frode lives in Norway.  James Purchase
> agreed
> > > to sell the tank on Ebay and send Frode the money.  James sat around
> doing
> > > nothing, then bailed (May 2001), leaving the job to me.  I auctioned the
> > > tank (Summer 2001), and went through a major rigamarole with All-Glass
> and
> > > the winning bidder, finally getting the tank to him and the money in my
> > > bank account (Summer-Fall 2001).  I then attempted to get the money to
> > > Frode.  First I tried a postal money order; the post office doesn't do
> > > money orders to Norway.  Frode also gave me an international routing
> > > number.  My bank said they didn't do that-- in fact, the bank said they
> > > didn't even DO international cashier's checks, and that I'd have to go
> > > downtown to get that done (during the work week).  Finally KATHY went
> and
> > > got this done on her day off from work.  We got a check drawn on a
> foreign
> > > bank (DECEMBER 2001), and I mailed it (JANUARY 2002!!).
> > >
> > > Now you have to understand that my communication with Frode was of the
> > > type you saw at the bottom of this list, about once ever 2 months, "Hi
> > > Eric, where's my money?"  I beleive I e-mailed him to let him know I'd
> > > sent the check to him right after I sent it.  But I didn't hear back
> from
> > > him for another 2 months, with yet another "where's my money?"
> > >
> > > SO.  I have no idea how one can do a stop payment on an international
> > > cashier's check on a foreign bank that was in all likelihood cashed back
> > > in JANUARY.  Kathy thinks we can at least find out when it was cashed,
> but
> > > I really doubt this.  I don't even know where the receipt is.
> > >
> > > David, I beleive you cannot effectively use PayPal to PAY other people,
> > > only collect money.
> > >
> > >   - Erik
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Erik Olson
> > > erik at thekrib dot com
> > >
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