Re: your mail

["Karen Randall" <krandall@world.std.com>]

Hi Charlene,

I agree that the biggest problem here is one of advance communication.  I
know that our local club has a letter they send out to speakers delineating
exactly what will be picked up by the club, just to avoid confusion.  Maybe
that's something we should institute in the future.

We all know this is a learn-as-we go experience!

Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlene Nash" <ecn@tennis.org>
To: "'Karen Randall'" <krandall@world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: your mail


> yes, I just asked if she were coming and I got a diatribe on how expensive
> this thing was etc etc I don't know why people think AGA could run a
> conference losing money every year with no other income source but a
> membership fee. I don't care if Kathy is comped but we had a number of
> "extras" last year and several this year who think they can come with
> someone and not pay but eat and participate and we have to have an
accurate
> head count-next year in the brochure there needs to be a space where
people
> let us know if they are bringing someone. Now Val and I are having to call
> people or email and make sure. Really screwed us up last year on a couple
of
> meals. I was surprised that even Erik didn't let us know she was coming!
> People haven't got a realistic clue how much planning  and expense this
> takes.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karen Randall [SMTP:krandall@world.std.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:56 PM
> > To: Charlene Nash; Erik Olson
> > Cc: AGA Steering Committee; kathy@thekrib.com
> > Subject: Re: your mail
> >
> > Hi Charlene,
> >
> > I have asked the board to give you permission to comp Kathy.  I don't
> > think
> > it will be a problem with all the Olsons have done and comntinue to do
for
> > AGA.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > To: "Charlene Nash" <ecn@tennis.org>
> > Cc: <krandall@world.std.com>; <kathy@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:04 PM
> > Subject: RE: your mail
> >
> >
> > > > We have to comp some of the guys who have put this thing together
> > > > (like we comped you last year) and pay for all the speaker hotel
rooms
> > > > and food (hotel
> > >
> > > Hmm, I may be mistaken, but I recall you did not comp us for ANYTHING
> > last
> > > year.  Both Kathy and I paid FULL PRICE for the registration, room and
> > > airfare.  I probably still have the Visa receipts.  Further, we ended
up
> > > missing large portions of the first day because we were put to work
> > > last-minute, registering people during the aquarium tour.
> > >
> > > Now given that Kathy just stuck her neck out and offered to drive
folks
> > > back and forth to the airport ON OUR OWN DIME (trying to overcome the
> > > rather unfriendly terse "Shuttles are not available.  You must take a
> > > taxi" message in the brochure.. say, did you know that taxis to IAB
are
> > > about $70 each way from that hotel?), it's pretty insulting to be told
> > her
> > > registration is needed revenue for the AGA.  Frankly, I'll bet she'd
> > > rather be visiting her large group of friends down in Houston than
> > hanging
> > > around trying to support her husband and his plant geek buddies.
> > >
> > > > We are down in attendance this year and frankly need the
> > > > registrations!  catering is very expensive!) so it is a pretty hefty
> > > > losing proposition this year I hate to say.
> > >
> > > In case nobody has explained this, a big part of the reason
registration
> > > is down is because of the high price tag.  We've now heard from a
large
> > > handfull of people who aren't coming because they simply can't afford
> > it.
> > > Some of these are LOCAL people, who'd be driving from Texas.  This
> > > convention costs 2-3 times what we've paid for elsewhere.  Even the
> > > American Cichlid Association, which is 4 days long, was only $60.  The
> > NEC
> > > workshop where we saw Claus 2 years ago was miniscule by comparison.
> > >
> > > But there was no feedback opportunity for this.  There was nothing for
6
> > > months, and then BAM, here it is, too late to try and fix anything.
> > >
> > >   - Erik
> > >
> > > --
> > > Erik Olson
> > > erik at thekrib dot com

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