Re: Fw: AGA 2004

["David Lass" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>]

Once again, my only experience with a national club was with the African
Violet Society of America (AVSA). It is a much larger org than AGA, and they
have been putting on national conventions since when I was thin and had
hair -- actually, before both. AVSA also is much more solvent than AGA is,
and could afford to take any risks associated with a convention, although
they always made lots of money for AVSA. The way they handled things was
that :
1) There was a standing committee of the national org. just for the annual
convention. Within that committee there were subcommittees on things like
the show, the auction, speakers, tours, hotel etc.
2) Locations for each year were decided at least 3 years in advance.  To be
on the slate a local club had to appoint their own chairs of each
subcommittee.
3) The subcommittee chairs for next year's convention shadowed their
counterparts at the current year convention.
4) Speakers were decided upon by the national committee -- by the chair of
speakers.

It seems to me that part of the problems we are having are tied up in the
fact that the convention, which started out being an AGA event when it was
in Tenn, has pretty much become an event done by a local club/group with the
sanction (Scott -- this time it is the approval) of AGA. In AVSA the local
club was the "host" of the AVSA convention and the national called the
shots -- I sorta get the feeling that AGA was the guest of the local club.
What also seems to have happened de facto is that the BOD is serving as a
convention committee of the whole. The process is seeming to get things
done, but I'm not at all sure it is the best way to do it, and it seems to
go along with law and sausages as being things that if you enjoy them you
shouold not see them made.
Sorry for having comments about the problem (at least what I see is the
problem) and not really having any solution. I thought that we had gotten
Valerie Grove to be the chair of the committee, but I guess I was mistaken.
I don't really know how things were handled, since I was pretty much out of
it for the months of April through June after my fall.
Assuming we are not going to constitute a convention committee, on the Amano
thing I think we should ask Karen to see if he would come, and we absolutely
need Tomoko to translate.
Sorry for the babbling -- I'm gonna go play in the snow.
David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004


> Uh huh. It's those relationships and our conenvention
> interests that put you in the middle, no? They can't tell
> us what they think the convention will draw unles they have
> the keynote. And you have the contacts for those folks.
>
> We could tell proposers to propose based on "if they get so
> and so".  Problem then is, if So and So turns us down,
> they have to redo the proposal and it might not become a
> proposal we don't want or one not as good as another we
> turned down.
>
> How do other orgs deal with this?
>
> sh
> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > Yes, we did have this same problem last year, and I
> > somehow end up as being
> > caught in the middle as the contact person with the
> > foreign folks.  That's
> > what makes me uncomfortable.  Not only do I have personal
> > relationships with
> > many of these people, but I also _depend_ on them for
> > TAG... I can't afford
> > to tick them off with idle or "if" type requests.
> >
>
>
> =====
> S. Hieber
>
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