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Re: RE The really big issue with AGA2K4



Sorry, no idea on ACA rooms.  $90 seems pretty reasonable.  That's what
it's cost us on some conventions.  People can (and will) share rooms, or 
as you suggest, attempt to find outside accomodations at the nearby Motel 
6 or equivalent.

  - Erik

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Kathy Olson wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am curious to hear from Erik what the ACA limits their hotel rooms for??  
> If he knows??  Not sure he does.
> 
> My take...69 for the convention sounds reasonable to hear Amano.  89 for 
> the hotel, yeah a little steep, but it is Washington DC and I assume this 
> is a Hyatt/Hilton/Marriot etc....Scott what hotel is it??  AND it is close 
> to the airport which is really key.
> 
> Yes, the hotel in houston may have been 69 a night, but transportation was 
> cost since they had not shuttle, easily brought it too 89 a night.  So if 
> there is an airport shuttle, I understand the hotel cost.  I am okay with 
> it.
> 
> I would leave it where it is....people can always get a hotel outside and 
> drive in.
> 
> Also....what number of room nights do they have to guarantee??  Or how do 
> the room charges change.  I haven't seen that much detail on that it.  
> That is an important part.  Or are the rooms 1500, and then maybe go away 
> if we hit so many room nights...etc.
> 
> I think you get my point.
> 
> Kathy
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Karen Randall wrote:
> 
> > 89$ per night is steep for a convention, and our registration has ALWAYS
> > been steep.  Could we try something like telling people we'll give a rebate
> > of $X if we hit some target of attendees?  Gte them to talk their buddies
> > into going too?
> > 
> > Or what about giving people who register before a certain date a certain
> > amount of  "convention bucks" that they can spend at the auction?  I suspect
> > it wouldn't cut down the profit from the auction much.  People will spend
> > the "real" cash they have available too, but might bid higher for items if
> > it felt like "free money".  If people are concerned about the AGA having to
> > pay money out to vendors, we could even have the "convention bucks" only
> > good on certain pre-designated (probably donated) items.
> > 
> > Just thinking off the top of my head here, but I think if we could come up
> > with some really fun incentive(s), it might help.  I suspect that even at
> > $89/$69, the die-hards will come, and there will be enough people to more
> > than break even.  We'll probably also have a number of people local enough
> > to just come for the day, and not stay in the hotel at all.
> > 
> > Could they try to negotiate the room rates down for those who stay 3 or more
> > nights?  That would make it a lot more attractive for those who are comin
> > from a distance.
> > 
> > Oh, another thing that you should suggest to the committee is that they
> > should contact Ray Lucas and Lee Finley ASAP about being vendors.  Both are
> > within driving distance (albeit long driving distance<g>) of this one.
> > 
> > In fact, they could use Lee for a fun focus group too if they wanted.  He
> > has a nice talk he put together for us on historical aquatic plant
> > literature.
> > 
> > Karen
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:21 PM
> > Subject: RE The really big issue with AGA2K4
> > 
> > 
> > > Okay folks,
> > >
> > > Here's the thing. It looks like the best deal formthe
> > > hotels is going to be $89/night. Rick is gong into battle
> > > with these folks day after next.
> > >
> > > Let's suppose the hotel is $89 -- what do you think is a
> > > reasonable registration fee?
> > >
> > > The proposal says $69 and shows a pretty good net return
> > > with 100 paid regs. At $69 the breakeven is about 65-70
> > > paid regs. At $59, the breakeven is about 70-75. At $49
> > > it's about 80-85.
> > >
> > > $69 is a good number, it seems, like a conservative pricing
> > >  -- if we don't have a total disaster -- 10 feet of snow,
> > > bombs, etc., we don't need a high number of people to break
> > > even. But without disasters, we should be able to draw 100
> > > easy with Amano, don't you think?
> > >
> > > I haven't been to enough of these things to know how
> > > sensistive folks are going to be to $89 for a hotel room
> > > and a registration fee of $49, $59, $69.
> > >
> > > Do any of you have a sense about the demand?  It seems to
> > > me, if the Hotel is going to cost $89/night, we need a
> > > lower reg fee than $69.  Rick is wondering if we have any
> > > input to offer re this.
> > >
> > > Before I crunch these numbers again, I'd be happy to hear
> > > any thoughts you folks have about the pricing -- any at
> > > all.
> > >
> > > sh
> > >
> > > =====
> > > S. Hieber
> > >
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