Re: GWAPA

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

--- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> If the IRS takes one look at our dwindling reserves, it's
> pretty clear that
> there is no profit going on here.<g>


Unfortunately not profitable and not-for-profit are two
diff things is the eyes of the IRS.

> 
> I honestly don't think that contributing to the bottom
> line is the goal for
> any of us for the convention.  I think we're all just a
> little gunshy about
> LOSING money in our present position.

Assuming no one disagrees with that, it's safe to say that
for the convention one of our goals is to at least
breakeven and to promote membership as much as possible?

That's a statement we could give to GWAPA?

sh

> 
> Karen
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:01 AM
> Subject: Re: GWAPA
> 
> 
> > I boruhg tthe reg fee price up as a matter about
> promoting
> > membership, the Bonus Bucks were one  idea that came up
> i
> > response and now were back to talking about profit
> again.
> >
> > My protestation is that that's the wrong focus. Am I
> > converted? I guess so. Do I think "profits" are
> inherently
> > bad?  Nope. But I'm connvinced membership is AGA's
> future
> > -- Convention "profits" are not.
> >
> > BTW, since we are officially not-for-profit, we should
> > refer to the revenues that exceed expenses as "net
> > revenues". I'd hate to hear the IRS quote us. ;-\
> >
> > sh
> > --- Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com> wrote:
> > > I would be worried that if limited on some items in
> the
> > > auction it is
> > > harder to track, creates more hassel.  I agree about
> > > limiting it to x
> > > number of people.
> > >
> > > Basically if we do 50 people with bonus bucks at $10
> > > each, that means it
> > > is $500 less that the convention makes.  I like the
> idea
> > > of bonus bucks
> > > and do think they are catchy, but in an organization
> > > where we are worried
> > > about do we have enough to do everything we want how
> much
> > > can we afford to
> > > do.  Maybe we do this for the first 20, or not at
> all.  I
> > > feel like a
> > > stick in the mud on this, but it is just one more
> thing
> > > for them to worry
> > > about.  Totally override me on this one....it is
> okay, my
> > > feelings are not
> > > that strong.  It is just when we are counting pennies
> > > giving away dollars,
> > > doesn't seem okay.  I know we think the convention
> should
> > > make money, but
> > > we are facing more hotel fee's on this one, and
> nothing
> > > is certain.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I feel like such a naysayer here, but $500 is
> > > $500 of profit.
> > >
> > > Okay, back to doing my online continuing medical
> > > education here...have to
> > > do that before Feb and not sure how much more time I
> will
> > > have!
> > >
> > > Take care
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Karen Randall wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think the bonus bucks idea is cute and catchy. 
> If we
> > > want to lessen it's
> > > > possible effects on the auction, we can always just
> > > allow the use of the
> > > > bonus bucks on certain donated items. But I think
> > > that's an idea that should
> > > > be presented to the committee, but not forced on
> them.
> > > If they like it
> > > > fine, if not, that's OK too.
> > > >
> > > > I have some other ideas based on the Q&A thing you
> sent
> > > us a few days ago,
> > > > but I haven't had time to type them up... After
> > > tomorrow I should be able to
> > > > get to it.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:37 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: GWAPA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > As a group, we are absolutely definitely soft on
> $69.
> > > I
> > > > > think that's it.  Bonus bucks for the first 50? 
> They
> > > were
> > > > > planning of putting the early regs into a raffle
> for
> > > a
> > > > > prize. B-bucks sound better.
> > > > >
> > > > > s-trongly h-edging
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > > > > > I could be swayed in either direction, but I
> think
> > > the
> > > > > > general "sway" was
> > > > > > toward it being OK.<g>
> > > > >
> > > > >
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