Re: GWAPA

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

Yup.  And I think the reason we CAN have this kind of conversation and not
have people take offense is taht we all respect each other, and are
perfectly capable of having (and expressing<g>) our own opinions, without
getting miffed that other people have their own!

Can't think of a group of people I'd rather work with.

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathy Olson" <kathy@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: GWAPA


> I think it is so easy in email for people to take things wrong.  You just
> don't get the emotional impact/range of being in person, and we all have
> our own filters.
>
> I have gotten emails from family, read it and found it offensive and read
> it a half hour later and found parts/the tone could be supportive read
> just a few hours later.
>
> So...all that to say, your email didn't bother me at all.  I think it is
> good we are all so open to each other and are willing to express
> ourselves.  If we DON"T express ourselves, there is NO WAY to have a board
> on EMAIL.   So, I am REALLY glad to be working with this board, where I
> can say....sorry if that offended didn't mean it too, or to offend someone
> and still have us be friends.  I think we can do that, and are doing it.
> Like I said, if we aren't honest about what we think, we won't be
> effective doing what we need to do.  Also...I think we are sensitive
> people, and like each other, hence we can resolve anything that comes up.
>
> I hope.
>
> All that probably didn't need to be said, but okay I said it anyways!
>
> Glad to have you on the board Scott! And everyone else too!
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, S. Hieber wrote:
>
> > I apologize to each of you that might have found my
> > comments offensive or unkind.
> >
> > Rarely am I one to resort to the phrase "our differences
> > are mostly over semantics." but that might be the case
> > here.
> >
> > My use of the term "dismal", an adjective so often reserved
> > for describing the science of economics in general,
> > referred only to the fact that AGA is a deficit operation.
> > Blame it on my financial background -- I guess my fiscal
> > slip is showing.
> >
> > If you will indulge me, I'll try to say better what I
> > meant. One way to end deficits is to reduce costs, as you
> > mentioned. Although, cost cuts are eventually eaten up by
> > inflation or worse, lead to reduced operations and a
> > vicious cycle of reduced revs, more cost cuts, reduced
> > operations, etc. Imo, as a rule of thumb, long term the
> > solution to a defict operation is increased revenues --
> > cost cuts are almost always short term solutions for a
> > deficit operation. I don't propose a big bank account as a
> > goal, just moving away from deficit operations, which I
> > know we all would like to see.  My point was that
> > convention surplus revenues won't do it but increased
> > membership will -- so increasing membership should be the
> > underlying goal (or at least a primary consideration) even
> > for a convention.
> >
> > I also think that TAG going to something less than full
> > color would be sad to say the least. It's such a great
> > journal and deserves color.
> >
> > Nor am I predicting that AGA will dissolve. In fact, I'm
> > confident that it can continue to be on the forefront of
> > this growing hobby. And I think that is going to be due our
> > increasing membership.
> >
> > It's sort of like "free will" in a predetermined universe
> > -- it will happen but only because we will make it so.
> >
> > s-loppy h-euristics
> >
> > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Long term, it won't do much for AGA's dismal financial
> > > > prospects.
> > >
> > > I have to disagree there.  I don't think our prospects
> > > ARE dismal.  In a
> > > VERY WORST case scenario, we could take TAG back to 2
> > > issues of B&W and 2
> > > issues of color each year.  I'm not in any way saying
> > > that this is something
> > > I'd like to see happen, but we've made a lot of big moves
> > > in the last few
> > > years, and they have cost us money.  By moving TAG
> > > production to Texas, I
> > > suspect we will be very close to, if not at , break even
> > > for the magazine.
> > >
> > > Our goal has never been just to have a big treasury. In
> > > fact, there was
> > > quite a period of time when we couldn't think of ways to
> > > spend the money
> > > that kept trickling in.<g>  The trouble was we couldn't
> > > find a way to make
> > > baby steps.  We had to take some big giant steps that
> > > drew down our reserves
> > > considerably.  I think we're turning the corner now, and
> > > we're on the way
> > > back up.  But even if I'm wrong, and we had to scale
> > > back, it would be
> > > disappointing, but not the end of the world, or even AGA
> > > and TAG.
> > > Aquaplanta is mostly B&W, they don't pay for ANY of their
> > > speakers expenses,
> > > they have NO money, NO web site, and they still have a
> > > good strong
> > > membership.  Christel was absolutely amazed by what we
> > > have done.
> > >
> > > I think we should keep working to make things better, of
> > > course.  But I
> > > don't think things are so bad, either.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > S. Hieber
> >
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