And that's in *addition* to the meeting room rental, banquet, lunch, hub caps, radio heater, white sidewalls, kitchen sink. I think it would wipe out both AGA's and GWAPA's treasuries. sh --- Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com> wrote: > > eek 19,000 prepaid or did i read that wrong... > > > On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, S. Hieber wrote: > > > After much work by Rick and Ghazanfar reviewing and > > negotiating with hotels, Sheraton offered us a deal a > few > > weeks ago that looked very promising. At the Board's > > request, GWAPA responded with a counterproposal > structured > > much along the lines of the Dallas deal. > > > > A couple of days ago, Sheraton responded with a new > > document. Once again, they faxed the document instead > of > > providing a computer-editable file, making comparison > and > > mark-up unnecessarily difficult. But we can't expect > > everyone to have a computer and a word processor these > > days. Anyway, I have gone over the two Sheraton > documents, > > the original and the more recent, line by line and > these > > are the diffs: > > > > They have included language to provide the convention > rate > > on guest rooms after the Oct 15 cut-off date, but only > if > > they have not rented them to someone else. In the > original, > > the rate was not guaranteed for any bookings after the > > cutoff date. > > > > They have qualified the language banning non-hotel > > food/beverage to being in compliance with State board > of > > Health certification requirements. > > > > The changed the language re the "Awards Dinner" to be > $35, > > inclusive of tax and service. In the original, the > price > > would only be guaranteed 3 months prior to event. [Hey, > we > > won one!] > > > > They have added very odd language: "The Hotel's > obligation > > to perform will not be subject to events beyond its > > reasonable control (such as strikes, governmental > controls, > > or Acts of God).? Anyone know what that means? It is > either > > a declaration of omnipotence on the Hotel's part or, > more > > likely, meant as a disclaimer. > > > > The added language that we will pay any remaining > charges > > on Sunday Nov 14. This means any new costs generated > > *during* the convention -- all other costs must be > prepaid > > with a $500 advance upon signing, and in 3-month > > installments but all paid by 3 days before the event -- > > this includes meeting room rentals, banquet ($1,750 & > lunch > > guarantee (?), & the room night guarantee too (the way > I > > read it). The room night guarantee is a minimum of 80% > or > > 224 roomnights = $19,040 minimum for the guest rooms > > regardless of how many we need). > > > > > > They changed the cancellation language by drastically > in > > their favor by increasing the deadline dates. For > example, > > in the Sheraton's new proposal, we are on the hook for > 100% > > of the room nights if we cancel 45 days before the > event. > > In the original version, it was 15 days. > > > > We are on the hook for 50% for up to 135 days prior -- > in > > the original, it was 60 days. > > > > Technically, the contract does not require Sheraton to > > promise to have the block of rooms available; it only > says > > that Sheraton will reserve them. Can hotel reservations > be > > like airline reservations? > > > > Holy __)*&)&(*)(*^%$%#$)(*Q_)#$$&*_$%!!!!! I think I > want > > a contract attorney before I sign anything with this > > outfit. If all the hotels in that part of the country > are > > this unreasonable, maybe we should starting thinking > about > > KOA :-\. > > > > Okay, I've calmed down a bit. I can continue now. > > > > Other than those things mentioned above, it looks to be > the > > same as the original proposal. > > > > If cancellation, or less than 280 roomnights, seem so > > unlikely that we want to gamble against them occuring, > then > > this is not such a bad deal, overall. However, I think > the > > gamble would be that GWAPA and AGA will not be become > > liable for debts exceeding total uncommitted assets. > > > > If anyone can read this diff, let me know. I lack the > > omnipotence of the Sheraton. > > > > sh > > > > ===== > > S. Hieber > > > > - - - - - - - - > > Amano Returns > > to the AGA Annual Convention > > Nov 2004 -- Baltimore > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. 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