Re: [AGA-sc] just in case you guys don't think Scott is serious...

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

And they have tax-exempt recognition. If they owed taxes
and penalties thereon, I imagine it would be worse.

sh
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:

> Here is something going down over at the ACA.  A $3000
> IRS fine because 
> they didn't file their taxes on time last year.  Granted
> they bring in a 
> lot more money and have been around a lot more than the
> AGA, but they 
> *have* an accountant.
> 
> I will keep following it to find out how they work it
> out, and report 
> back.
> 
> I wish I could help Scott with the AGA's current similar
> crisis, but I 
> know nothing about incorporation and these laws as
> well...
> 
>    - Erik
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:04:22 -0400
> From: "Hamilton, Frederick (hamiltfn)"
> <HAMILTFN@ucmail.uc.edu>
> Reply-To: ACA Board and Cadre <aca-cadre@thekrib.com>
> To: 'ACA Board and Cadre' <aca-cadre@thekrib.com>
> Subject: RE: [Aca-cadre] Fw: RE: IMPORTANT - IRS Penalty
> Letter Received f or
>      ACA
> 
> Hi, Claudia:
> 
> Many thanks for your quick work on this.  To save time, I
> am attaching a
> scan of the letter from the IRS.  I don't think that we
> can wait for the
> mails; if you can forward this to Mike by e-mail, that
> would save a fair
> amount of time.  I think we'd also all appreciate it if
> Mike could relate to
> you, or to Tim or to me, what he intends to do, and
> especially to let us
> know ASAP whether the assessment must be paid.  The last
> thing we want is to
> miss the upcoming deadline.
> 
> Fred Hamilton, J.D.
> Associate General Counsel
> University of Cincinnati Medical Center
> Phone:  (513) 558-7748
> FAX:    (513) 558-0549
> 
> The foregoing message may contain attorney-client
> information. You should
> not copy, forward or otherwise distribute this email
> without the permission
> of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, you
> should delete this
> message without retaining a copy and inform the sender of
> your action. Your
> cooperation will be appreciated.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ivy Rose Cottage [mailto:ivyrose@optonline.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:05 PM
> To: ACA Cadre
> Subject: Re: [Aca-cadre] Fw: RE: IMPORTANT - IRS Penalty
> Letter Received for
> ACA
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Ken, Tim, Fred and All,
> 
>      I just got off the phone with Mike.  He told me to
> have Tim mail him the
> IRS letter and he would take care of the matter with
> them.
> 
>      Claudia
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Davis" <kwdavis@uga.edu>
> To: "ACA Cadre" <aca-cadre@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:56 AM
> Subject: [Aca-cadre] Fw: RE: IMPORTANT - IRS Penalty
> Letter Received for ACA
> 
> 
> > FYI, lets see what Tim and Fred can do. We may have to
> pay.  Ken
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <fishfarm@mindspring.com>
> > To: <kwdavis@uga.edu>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:40 AM
> > Subject: Fw: RE: IMPORTANT - IRS Penalty Letter
> Received for ACA
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Forwarded Message-----
> >> From: "Hamilton, Frederick (hamiltfn)"
> <HAMILTFN@UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
> >> Sent: Aug 18, 2004 7:11 AM
> >> To: 'Tim Hovanec' <hovanec@aquariagroup.com>,
> >> "Hamilton, Frederick (hamiltfn)"
> <HAMILTFN@UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
> >> Cc: NSTERN@DINSLAW.com, "'Fishfarm@mindspring.com'"
> > <Fishfarm@mindspring.com>
> >> Subject: RE: IMPORTANT - IRS Penalty Letter Received
> for ACA
> >>
> >> Hi, Tim -
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info.  Unfortunately, I don't know of
> any method for
> >> resolving this, based on your explanation.  I would
> look to Mike Mirras
> to
> >> make amends (I think we have paid him for this
> service, correct?) if he
> >> cannot or will not, then we may need to go ahead and
> pay.
> >>
> >> This is copied to Noah Stern for information, but
> since he is not a
> >> volunteer for ACA, I wouldn't expect him to offer any
> help here (unless
> we
> >> get a resolution approved to compensate him).  Noah
> helped with the
> >> tax-exemption matter, and did so at a substantial
> discount as a
> > professional
> >> courtesy.  I paid the fees personally as a donation to
> ACA.
> >>
> >> In any event I think we need to consider changing tax
> preparers, based
> on
> >> this; I'd suggest that you select someone who is known
> to you and
> nearby,
> >> and put forward the appropriate proposition to ensure
> that the funds are
> >> available.  I would recommend doing this now and
> making the current
> crisis
> >> that person's first assignment.
> >>
> >> Fred Hamilton, J.D.
> >> Associate General Counsel
> >> University of Cincinnati Medical Center
> >> Phone:  (513) 558-7748
> >> FAX:    (513) 558-0549
> >>
> >> The foregoing message may contain attorney-client
> information. You
> should
> >> not copy, forward or otherwise distribute this email
> without the
> > permission
> >> of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient,
> you should delete
> > this
> >> message without retaining a copy and inform the sender
> of your action.
> > Your
> >> cooperation will be appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tim Hovanec [mailto:hovanec@aquariagroup.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:32 PM
> >> To: Hamilton, Frederick (hamiltfn)
> >> Cc: NSTERN@DINSLAW.com
> >> Subject: RE: IMPORTANT - IRS Penalty Letter Received
> for ACA
> >>
> >> Fred and Noah
> >>
> >> here is the sequence of events that have caused this
> problem.
> >>
> >> i got the financial info together and sent off to Mike
> Marris in Sept
> 03.
> >> In the past Mike has automatically filed for an
> extension.
> >>
> >> i heard nothing until I got a letter from the IRS in
> probably May of 04
> >> asking for the tax return.  I immediately called Mike
> Marris can cuaght
> > him
> >> as he was going to a conference, I told him the
> problem.  He sounded
> >> surprised and said to fax him the letter, that the
> extension had been
> > filed.
> >> i faxed him the letter that day.
> >>
> >> i did not here from him for several days and started
> calling daily but
> he
> >> was never 'in'.
> >>
> >> I would say 2-3 weeks later I got the tax return from
> mike but had never
> >> spoken to him again.
> >>
> >> I signed the form and sent it in.
> >>
> >> who's fault?  I would some on me for not following up
> with mike and a
> lot
> > on
> >> mike for no filing the extension or doing the tax
> return faster.
> >>
> >> how do we resolve without costing money?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> tim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
****************************************************************************
> >> Dr. Timothy A. Hovanec
> >> email:hovanec@marineland.com
> >> Chief Science Officer
> >> phone (805) 553-4446
> >> The Aquaria Group
> >> fax (805) 529-0170
> >> (Marineland Aquarium Products, Perfecto, Aquarium
> Systems)
> >> 6100 Condor Dr
> >> Moorpark, CA 93021 USA
> >> www.marinelandlabs.com to visit the lab
> >>
> >
>
****************************************************************************
> >>
> >>> ----------
> >>> From: Hamilton, Frederick (hamiltfn)
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:07 AM
> >>> To: 'hovanek@marineland.com'
> >>> Cc: 'Fishfarm@mindspring.com'
> >>> Subject: IMPORTANT - IRS Penalty Letter Received for
> ACA
> >>>
> >>> <<File: ACA_SECOND_SCAN.PDF>><<File:
> ACA_FIRST_SCAN.PDF>>
> >>> Hi, Tim:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We received a letter today from the IRS concerning
> ACA's tax return
> from
> >>> 2003.  According to their records, the return was due
> November 15,
> 2003,
> >> but
> >>> was not received until June, 2004 - seven months
> late.  The notice
> >> assesses
> >>> penalties of  $ 2924.75.  I am attaching a scan of
> the notice
> >>> ("ACA_SECOND_SCAN.PDF").  I am copying this to Ken
> Davis as an
> >> informational
> >>> matter.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am told that the IRS is reasonable in these
> situations and often
> will
> >>> remit the penalty if supplied with good reason to do
> so.  I know that
> >> ACA's
> >>> tax returns have been faithfully filed by you for a
> number of years,
> and
> >>> therefore I think the way to proceed is for you to
> call the IRS to
> >> determine
> >>> where the difficulty lies.  This discussion will need
> to occur very
> > soon:
> >>> the Notice requests payment by September 6.  Please
> let me know the
> > result
> >>> of the discussion with the IRS, or if I can help in
> any way.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Meanwhile, I am also attaching the IRS determination
> letter which we
> >>> received in June, for your files
> (ACA_FIRST_SCAN.PDF). Many thanks!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Fred Hamilton, J.D.
> >>>
> >>> Associate General Counsel
> >>>
> >>> University of Cincinnati Medical Center
> >>>
> >>> Phone:  (513) 558-7748
> >>>
> >>> FAX:    (513) 558-0549
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The foregoing message may contain attorney-client
> information. You
> > should
> >>> not copy, forward or otherwise distribute this email
> without the
> >> permission
> >>> of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient,
> you should
> delete
> >> this
> >>> message without retaining a copy and inform the
> sender of your action.
> >> Your
> >>> cooperation will be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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