and here's a text version --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > > For someone who is still not completely computer lierate, > would you mind > forwarding me Neil's attachment as a text file? I can't > figer out how to > get my fancy XP machine to open a Word Perfect file!<g> > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@wilstream.com> > To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" > <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] AGA History, circa 1990 > > > > Dang, Neil, this is good stuff. I am mesmerized. The > technical/computer > > evolution alone is fascinating. You talk of 5.25 in > floppy disks and being > > able to communicate via modem as a new thing. > > > > And they *were* injecting CO2 back then. Cool. > > > > Cheryl > > > > nfrank@mindspring.com wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> Recently i noticed that you honored Dorothy and me > will life memberships. > >> Thanks for the recognition! I have since been > thinking about the > >> origins of the AGA and perused my computer for any > relevant > >> information.... and stumbled on electronic copies of > letters i wrote in > >> 1990 which describe the formation of the current AGA. > They capture the > >> discussions i had with Dorothy, Jare and others > associated with the > >> AAGA.... all via snail mail. The letters are packaged > into one file and > >> attached for the archives. I hope you find it > interesting reading. > >> Probably should be resubmitted to the AGA mgt list as > well. > >> Neil > >> > >> PS. I have been reading this off and on and see that > the organization is > >> doing very well. Keep up the good work! > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> AGA-sc mailing list > >> AGA-sc@thekrib.com > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > > > > -- > > Cheryl Rogers, Membership > > Aquatic Gardeners Association > > http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org > > _______________________________________________ > > AGA-sc mailing list > > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc >
Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 May 14, 1990 Aquascaping, Ltd. USA Biotype Life Support Systems 2100 Pacheco Street Suite 312 Concord, CA 94520 Dear Aquascapers, As the new President of the American Aquatic Gardeners Association, I am in the process of reviving this national organization which has been somewhat inactive for the past 18 months. After seeing your advertisement in the June 1990 issue of FAMA, I decided that I must contact you to see how your company might benefit our organization and visa versa. Can you please provide me with some information about your company. In your ad, you indicate that technical publications and journals are available. A listing of these publications for future inclusion in the AAGA library would be appreciated. I enclose a membership flier for your consideration. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 (919) 848-3763 April 16, 1990 BOD Members of the American Aquatic Gardeners Association Dear board members, I hope that this letter finds you and your families well. With this letter I am formally announcing that I have volunteered to take charge of the AAGA in order to get our organization working again and am requesting your approval and authorization for needed action. I recently telephoned Dick Van Hyfte in order to tell him of my intentions and to find out what has been happening. Dick is very excited at the prospect of reviving AAGA, and basically told me that things have in limbo since the last flurry of board correspondence in 1988, although he says that he and his wife have been able to get the records in reasonably good order. Dick has provided me with the AAGA bank and membership statements and it appears that we have a good foundation on which to rebuild. We have $1835.66 in the treasury and 190 member on the most recent roster. Dick has already given me his unconditional support and would be willing to serve the organization in a limited but extremely important supporting role. Specifically, he could act as Treasurer for a few months, until a replacement can be installed and he could continue to process mail from the current P.O. Box and forward information to a new membership chair. Dick has also reiterated his interest in using his personal copy machine to do the reproduction of The Aquatic Gardener, at his cost of approximately 2.5 cents per page. This would enable us to produce a high quality product at a total cost of under 30 cents per issue. In order for our organization to be revived, it is obvious that we will need a strong and committed board. Therefore, I also requesting that you identify your interest in continuing to a member of the BOD and to what additional extent you are willing to be part of the AAGA team. We must rebuild the organizational structure by reestablishing the key positions: Membership chair, Treasurer, Editor, ... etc. We either need volunteers to fill these positions or at least volunteers to be part of a search committee to accomplish the same. The position of editor will be critical, because without TAG, I don't think we can re-establish our credibility. If I receive your approval to be President, and if we still have a committed BOD, I will send a letter to all "existing" committee chairs to inform them of our intentions and I will request that they also commit to continue to be part of our team. It would also be very useful if the BOD could approve an allocation of a limited amount of money to cover the expense of phone calls, since this form of communication with potential workers would be extremely valuable at this point in time. (With my "Prime Time MCI" phone service, I can place calls within the continental US for 10 cents a minute on weekends and after 5 pm weekdays. I think that an annual allocation of $20-25. for the President should be sufficient.) As soon as I determine the status of the infrastructure, I will outline a plan of action for the board's approval. I am interested in getting things moving as soon as possible. Once we re-establish the infrastructure, one of my next short-term goals is to let our "membership" know that their organization does exist and is alive and well. To regain their trust, we must resume written communication. Ideally, the first mailing should be accompanied with the next issue of TAG. Since the current membership rooster includes many new names, I think the next issue(s) of TAG could be based on reprint material from the early issues. This could solve the problem of not having sufficient original with which to work. We could also rationalize this approach if the "reprints" were of a higher reproduction quality. Another next step would be to publish an announcement or status report in the commercial aquarium magazines. I could contact Don Dewey, for example, and ask that he publish a letter to the editor or permit us to publish a short article or suitable notice. There are many outstanding issues that require board input and resolution. I am anxious to receive a response from each of you on the requests and ideas that I have outlined above, and welcome your input regarding the needed plan of action and additional ideas regarding the future of the AAGA. I would appreciate a response by April 30. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 (919) 848-3763 May 14, 1990 Dear Dale, After almost two years of inaction from the American Aquatic Gardeners Association, I stepped forward and volunteered to be an interim president with the hope of reviving the organization. I initially approached Dick Van Hyfte with the idea, and after receiving his endorsement, I asked for and received approval from the current (i.e. 1988) BOD. Since you were one of the early active members and a previous member of the BOD, I am writing to inform you of my intentions. I am also writing to solicit your input and, most importantly, your support. My immediate plans are to refill several key positions: editor, membership and treasurer. Dick is very dedicated to the goals of AAGA, and despite his continued workload problems that contributed to the club's inactivity, he is willing to assume temporary responsibility of membership and treasurer. He also volunteered to serve as the printer of The Aquatic Gardener, using his personal office equipment and charging at his cost. However, in order for the group to become fully functional, I must find some warm bodies to take on the important jobs in a full time capacity. Are you still interested in AAGA and would you be available to help with the revival of the AAGA? It appears that we have a good foundation on which to rebuild. We have $1835.66 in the treasury and 190 member on the most recent roster. Once we re-establish the infrastructure, one of my next short-term goals is to let our "membership" know that their organization does exist and is alive and well, with renewed publication of TAG. There is much more that we can do, but we need to rebuild slowly. Please let me know what role you are willing to play in the rebuilding of the AAGA. I look forward to your response. Sincerely, 1988 Board of AAGA: Joan Glascock, 3520 SW Falcon Street, Portland, OR 97219 Neil Frank, 6205 Lookout Loop, Raleigh, NC 27612 Ray Lucas, E 6715 Pinehurst Drive, Boston, NY 14025 Judy Marshall, 11 E. Morgan, Battle Creek, MI 49017 Lyle Marshall, 11 E. Morgan, Battle Creek, MI 49017 Jare Sausaman, 6804 N. 10th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19126 Dick Van Hyfte, Box 293, Minors Drive, Palo, IA 52324 Ron Wheeler, 49750 Martz Road, Belleville, MI 48111 Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 May 20, 1990 Dear Joan, I was sorry that we never connected two weeks ago when you passed through North Carolina. I new that you had retired from the DEQ, because I phone you a few weeks ago. I was enthused when I go your message. After receiving your card, I phoned you in Virginia, when you were visiting up north. I am anxious to speak to you about the AAGA. I definitely need your help!! Perhaps together, we can decide if this group is revivable. As I have already indicated, I have Dick's support and he will be able to provide some organizational assistance. I was less successful with the remainder of the "existing" board. Both Ron Wheeler and Ray Lucas gave me their endorsement, but neither could commit to doing any work. I never heard from Jare, who is usually not very communicative until the school year is finished. I think that he would still stay involved, perhaps as Secretary and Librarian. I have not heard from Judy or Lyle Marshall. Dick was not able to tell me much about the Marshall's situation, except that Lyle was very sick 2 years ago. Because of this and because I don't know Judy, I am reluctant to telephone. What do you know about this? I have also written Dale Speirs, informing him about my intentions, in the hope that he may be able to be of assistance. I would like to re-establish three key positions: editor, membership and treasury. Editor is probably the most difficult to fill, but also the most important in order to revive the organization. I think editor may be equal in importance to president. With someone else as president, I would even be willing to be editor. Once the key positions are pinned down, I think everything else will fall into place. I believe that many people from our existing membership would become available to take on other jobs and provide the needed contributions to the organization. Unfortunately, I do not think it is best to write an open letter to the membership and reveal the full extent of our organizational problems. I would rather privately solicit the needed volunteers. What would you be willing to do, and what are your feelings, in general. Who do you think could be approached? I look forward to your response. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 May 20, 1990 Dear Ron, Since last month, I had hoped to hear from the "existing" AAGA board, and establish a clear consensus of what we would be doing. I have not yet been able to accomplish that. I am therefore notifying you about where we stand. Ray Lucas has given me his endorsement, but is too busy with other fish organizations to commit. Joan Glasscock has also given me her endorsement, but has retired and is traveling. She said she could help, but I don't know with what since I have not been able to get up with her. I have not received a response from the Marshalls or Jare Sausaman. What do you know? Before we can do anything with the organization, I must re-establish 3 key positions: editor, membership and treasurer. In your last letter you indicated that you may be able to line up some volunteers. Let me know if you know anyone who can be approached. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 June 10, 1990 Dear Dorothy, Jare Sausaman suggested that I write to you. You may recall that we met briefly last summer at the International Cichlid Convention in Orlando, FL. The reason that I am writing is in reference to the American Aquatic Gardeners Association (AAGA). I can use your help. As you are already well aware, this organization has been inactive for approximately 18 months. The last issue of The Aquatic Gardener was dated January 1989. The problems with the organization have been two-fold: Dick Van Hyfte, the president, had job problems and could not attend to the organization; Lyle Marshall, the editor, had become very sick. As you may also know, Dick is also Treasurer and Membership Chair. No one seemed to be interested in stepping forward to fill the needed shoes. I sincerely believe that the organization is very important and needs revival. Accordingly, I approached Dick and told him that I would attempt to revive the organization. I did not know this was going to happen before I called, but I found myself volunteering to be interim President. Dick was enthusiastic to my proposal and offered to serve in a supporting role, including his willingness to serve as temporary treasurer and membership. He sent me all of his records. I contacted the most current (1988) board (Ron Wheeler, Joan Glascock, Ray Lucas, Lyle and Judy Marshall, Jare Sausaman) and found that most people were supportive and gave me their approval, but were too committed in other organizations to take on a major job. However, Jare volunteered to continue to be Secretary or to do something which would require similar work. The reason that I am writing to you is that Jare thought that you would be interested in playing a role in reviving AAGA. I know that you are very interested in plants. I also understand that you have been quite involved in aquarium organizations. I hope that you will consider helping with the revival of AAGA. Perhaps, we should recast it as the IAGA, the International Aquatic Gardeners Association. My first priority is to re-establish the editorship of TAG. This is also my most difficult task, because this is probably the most difficult job; perhaps even more difficult than president. I myself would be willing to be editor, if someone else would take on the coordinating job of president. Once the editor is in place, the existing membership can be contacted together with a new issue of TAG. This will be an important step in re-establishing our credibility. The next steps will be to fill membership and treasurer. Committees will fall into place. For example, Dale Speirs from Calgary said he would be willing to chair a technical advisory committee. Please get back to me if you are personally interested in being a part of the AAGA (or IAGA) leadership or if you know of others who may be interested in getting involved. Our most recent membership roster had 190 names. Our treasury is in good shape. We just need some good people. I will be happy to provide you will more details about the organization and what I think needs to be done. I hope to hear from you soon. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 USA July 1, 1990 Dear Dorothy, Thanks for responding so quickly and indicating an interest in helping. As I indicated in my last letter, I must re-establish an executive board (President, Membership and Treasurer) as well as an editor before the organization can proceed. Based on Jare's recommendation, I felt that you would be qualified to take on a lead position. I agree that manpower is a problem and feel that those of us who are interested and willing must assume the responsibility to take charge. Would you be interested in the Presidency (permitting me to be editor), or at least being Co-President and temporary membership chair. I think that I can talk Jare into being treasurer. (Since the membership is mostly based in the USA, the treasurer must remain here, at least for now). This would give us a good solid base upon which to re-build. After the summer, I can enlist the help of Joan Glascock. She was previously an active board member, is recently retired and has offered to help. (She is doing some traveling this summer). Do you know of anyone else that we can contact. Are you planning to go to the ACA in Chicago or to the FAAS Convention. I have not decided on either, although I am leaning more towards the latter. If you are planning to attend either one, this may help me decide to also attend. Regarding the time it takes to receive mail, I received your June 26 letter on June 30th. I can't understand why it took four days coming here, while it took mine 15 days to get to you. Let me know how long this one takes. If it takes more than a week, I will check with our postal service. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 July 28, 1990 Dear Robert, Sorry that I did not write to you sooner to thank you for the article that you submitted for the Aquatic Gardeners Association. Thanks. I have been busy for the past few months trying to get AAGA organized and I think that I finally secured enough key people to proceed. Three people will be running the steering/reorgainization committee - Jare Sausaman, Dorothy Reimer and myself. I have designated myself as the editor of the bulletin. We are shooting for a formal startup with the next (first?) issue of the bulletin for January 1991. I saw Ron Wheeler last week at the ACA convention in Chicago and he mentioned your name. If you are interested in getting involved with the publication in any way - submitting articles, helping with editing, etc., let me know, I am definitely interested. In regard to the article that you submitted, I would be interested in getting it on a 5.25" IBM compatible floppy, either in ascii or Word Perfect format, if you have that capability. Also, if you have any previously published publications, or know of any from other authors that are worthy of reprint from club publications, I would be interested. Thanks again, P.S. Do you have the Revision of the Genus Cryptocoryne by Rataj, 1975, published in Chechoslovakia), and know how I could get a copy. Ditto for Echinodorus. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 (919) 848-3763 Mike Trz... August 24, 1990 Dear Mike, I hope that you have had a nice summer. More and more, I hear people talking about Delaware Aquatics, so it must be keeping you busy. The last time we talked on the phone, we discussed AAGA. What did you decide that you would be willing to do? Is rare and unusual species committee chair still possible? Dorothy Reimer, Jare Sausaman and I now represent the steering committee / reorganization committee for the group. Dorothy is membership, Jare is Treasurer and I am editor. We are shooting for a January 1991 public emergence. Do you have any outstanding expenses or income? If so, can you get in touch with Jare. As editor, I am compiling articles. Can you send me a copy of yours which FAAS voted as the best plant article of the year, and any others that you think are worthy of publication (either yours or written by others). I can use your help on another matter. I am thinking about putting together a cross reference table, linking plant names used in the hobby with articles and pictures in the aquarium/aquatic plant books. The need for such a table is attributed, in part, to the fact that there is not a single best plant reference which is either complete or accurate. I am actually less concerned over the latter and more concerned with "approximate" identification, for both submerged and emersed forms. I suspect that you may have already looked into this problem because of your plant business. For example, which books have a picture of the melon sword, and is it submerged or emersed form. There may also be some plants on your list which are not pictured at all! Let me know if you have any information on the published pictures/articles on your listed plants. Finally, can you send me a price list that can be used to either order for a shop or aquarium club. The group in Durham, NC has been ordering from you and I would like to see the Raleigh group get more involved in plants. Another useful point regarding your plant list, is the form of the plant. Although the average hobbyist would not know what to do with the information, the specialized plant person could benefit from knowing which of your plants are available in submerged and which in emersed form. This will greatly help the current confusion over plant IDs. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 (919) 848-3763 August 29, 1990 Lyle Marshall 11 E. Morgan Battle Creek, MI 49017 Dear Lyle, I have just spoken with Ron Wheeler, and I was happy to hear that you are interested in staying involved in the Aquatic Gardeners Association. I tried to find your phone number to call, but was told it is unlisted. Please write or call and discuss with me to what extent you would like to be involved. I would be very much interested, for example, in having you take care of the Plant and Materials Listing. If you can participate on the board, that would be great. As Ron may have told you, much progress has bee made towards the revival of the organization. When I last wrote to you and Judy several months ago, I was asking for the "board's" approval to proceed as "temporary" president. Since then, a committee of three (including myself) have become the "steering/reorganization" committee for the organization. The committee consists of Dorothy Reimer, who is also serving as membership chair; Jare Sausaman, who is also serving as Treasurer; and myself, the editor. Dick is in the process of transferring membership info and monies. We are shooting for a January 1991 rebirth; I hope to get things going quickly, before I realize how much work is ahead of me and change my mind! As editor, I can certainly make use of all of the magazine materials that you may have: back issues, unprinted articles, cover art, etc. If it would not be too much trouble, I would really appreciate if you could arrange to send these to me and I will reimburse you for your postage. Looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 September 18, 1990 Dear Dorothy, So glad to hear from you today, and am particularly glad that you finally received the stuff from Dick. I was starting to have my doubts again. I called Dick the last weekend in August - around 3 weeks ago. He said that he had not yet pulled "everything" together. I told him to not wait for "everything." He said that he would send you something and other publication related stuff to me, including the "archives" of which I had agreed to be custodian two years ago. I have not received anything yet. I also asked Dick to look into the status of our teeshirts and other sales item kept by Dennis Sindlar, also of Eastern Iowa. So, far nothing. The rest of the letter also contains some disappointment, but also discusses some positive developments. I talked to Ron Wheeler recently, who had talked to Lyle Marshall as I requested. Lyle apparently is homebound, but well enough, and is still very interested in actively participating in a small way like doing the "plant and materials" listing. I tried to call him, but after learning that he has an unlisted number, I sent him a letter soliciting his support and requesting that he send me available publication materials (cover art, etc.). Unfortunately, it has been 2-3 weeks and I have not heard anything. I talked to Jare this past weekend. He is supposed to be talking to Dick about setting up the bank account this week. Jare promised to get back to me this coming weekend to see where we are with the finances. Until I received your letter, I was becoming pessimistic about the whole deal. Now, I am expecting positive news from Jare. Allow me to respond to several points you raise in your note. First of all, yes, you can telephone me. My number is 919-848-3763. I think that a phone call can really be helpful. I also think that we can efficiently resolve some of the detailed decisions by establishing a "round-robin" letter, among Jare, yourself and I. The way it may work is that I give you my ideas on specific topics or things that I think should be done. You comment, make changes, additions, etc. and pass along to Jare for his input. Assuming that the three of us continue to be as agreeable as we have so far, we should end up with a good final product from which we can establish a consensus decision. For example, you send the membership form to me for comment, I pass along to jare, then you finalize. Each of us would be responsible to make the final decision on different things. Regarding another point in your letter - out of country memberships - I definitely think that US, Canada and Mexico should be equal at $15.00 (even though the postage costs will be higher sending the magazine to Canada). Other countries is another matter. Assuming that the magazine will be 2 ounces, the per issue postage for within US, Canada and Mexico will be $0.45, .52, .45, respectively. For other countries, it will be $1.80. This would be an increase of $5.40 for 4 issues and $8.10 for 6 issues. I checked the ACA dues, and they charge $15 for US/Canada/Mexico and $22.50 for other (BB only) and 32.50 for BB and TP. I would suggest $25 for TAG (the aquatic gardener, assuming that we keep that name), and $28.00 for all mailings (on the assumption that the other mailings would be one page in an envelope which would cost an additional $.50 per item). If you agree, use these rates. Let's talk about the name. I would like to change it to Aquatic Gardener's Association. The only thing that might limit our ability to change it, is the by-laws. I say that unless Jare says that the by-laws would be a problem on this matter, we should go ahead and change it. By the way, did you notice that FAMA had removed the listing - did you make that change? Of course, if the t-shirts materialize, the old name would not be applicable; but I don't think that is a big deal. Remember that young fellow, Vinny, we met at the ACA convention. I have been in contact with him, through a computer network that I stumbled into. He mentioned it at the convention and coincidentally, I met someone here in Raleigh who got me into it. I have been able to send written messages to him at the University of Florida through my computer at home (via a modem). The nice thing is that there is not long distance charge. There are quite a few plant enthusiasts throughout the US, Canada and elsewhere who are on this network. Vinny is in the process of lining up all sorts of articles, dealing with lighting, CO2, fertilization and other technology topics. There are many schools of thought out there. Some are hooked on the "Dupla", high cost, high technology methods, others are more of the "Dutch" aquaria school. There is also "news" that people post. As my time permits, I have been reading some of the postings. Some of the network users seem to know you. Just recently, someone discussed the foolproof Dorothy Reimer method of growing plants. I look forward to publishing information about the different methods and providing some comparative analysis of the different approaches. I think that it is easier to be a good cook than to write a good cookbook; with our organization, we will give people the opportunity to share their secret recipes. I talked to Trzonkowky of Delaware and asked if he wanted to participate as before and followed up with a formal letter, but he has not yet responded. I will probably not pursue this one any further myself. I will leave this one to you and Jare - maybe you will have more success. In closing , let me list some of the things (not necessarily in this order) that we need to address over the next month inorder to meet our goal of a January 1991 revival together with an issue of the publication. 1. Transfer the bank account to Philadelphia - so we will have operating capital. 2. Prepare membership form - which you have started 3. Send one letter to old members, a different one to ones who have never received anything, telling each group what is coming (maybe this can wait until Nov or so)_ 4. Send notice/ad to FAMA with your mailing address by mid Oct to appear in Dec/Jan issue. Ditto for TFH and Aquarium Fish. We should also prepare a brief letter to appear at the same time. 5. Establish tentative budget for operating expenses, for example giving you and I money for doing membership and the magazine. 6. Incorporation - Can you look into this one at a local university; I think that we should do it, but first we should revise the 7. Bylaws - I would hate to tackle this one - it is not something I know how to approach. Can we just redraft among the 3 of us (and together with Dick and the board), or do we have to get the "membership" to approve changes. 8. Formalize the new board. One thing that is important is to figure out the correct mechanism to get you on the board; or is that even important, i.e. Do you have to be on the board to chair membership and to participate on a reorganization committee? (If you haven't figured it out yet, I am not a stickler for formalities). 9. Finalize decision on the name of the organization, the name of the magazine (or should we call it a journal) and other details about the publication and the schedule (bimonthly or quarterly). I will also need input, particularly from Jare, on details like volume and issue numbering convention. I must close now. I said more than I thought I would at this sitting. One final thing, can you send me one of those slick Canadian publications that you brought to the ACA. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 September 19, 1990 Dear Joan, I hope that you have been enjoying your retirement and that you may have settled down enough to now participate in the revival of the Aquatic Gardeners Association. Since I last wrote you, much progress has taken place over the summer. First, I have enlisted the support of Dorothy Reimer and Jare Sausaman. Dorothy, as you know, is quite active with plants in Canada and with CAOAC. Together with myself, we are serving as a steering/re-organization committee for the group. With this structure, I have changed my prior position of temporary president to the editor. Dorothy is Membership Chair and Jare is Treasurer. You are probably asking: why do we need a treasurer without a treasury? The answer is: Dick has transferred the AAGA account to Philadelphia! Dick has also transferred all membership applications to Dorothy, together with uncashed money orders, etc. The re-organization committee is now preparing letters to go the old and new members, publicity for national magazines and I am working towards a January 1990 issue of the magazine. There are still lots of details to work out - the name is one. We may be dropping the first "A", and calling the group Aquatic Gardeners Association (AGA). Revising the by-lays and incorporation are other possibilities. Ron Wheeler has been in contact with Lyle Marshall. Although Lyle is homebound, he is apparently interested in participating, say as the plant and materials listing coordinator. I have written Lyle about a month ago, but unfortunately, I have not yet received a response. I also asked him for all publication materials (cover art, unpublished articles, etc). Get in touch with me when you can. Any comments, advice and or assistance are welcome. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 1, 1990 Dear Dale, When I last wrote to you in late Spring, I was struggling in my efforts to revive the AAGA. Now I can happily report to you that the organization is solidly on its way to revival. Over the summer, I have received the important support of Dorothy Reimer, as membership chair; and of Jare Sausaman, as Treasurer. The three of us are now serving as the steering/re-organization committee. With this strong base, we are flying without a President. Accordingly, I have become the editor for the group's publication. In your last letter, you indicated that you would be willing to contribute articles to TAG. I am currently pulling together material for the magazine. I can use your articles now. Please send me any new material you choose to submit, as well as appropriate plant-related articles that you have previously written for a local club, or other publications. Similarly, if you have copies of good reprint material by other authors, please send these as well. One source of reprint material that Jare has suggested is articles from early aquarium literature, say from the 1920's - 1950's, from Innes Aquarium, Aquatic Life, Aquarium Bulletin, etc. If you are interested in helping with this effort or have any comments, please let me know. The steering committee has set an unofficial date of January 1991 for the revival of Aquatic Gardeners. Over the next month or so, formal announcements and letters to the membership should be going out (hopefully!). In your last letter, you also asked about your role with the Technical Advisory Committee. For now, I would like this committee to concentrate on literature (answering requests, reviewing articles for publication, etc), and as such, your offer to continue as chair is gratefully accepted. I agree that plant IDs can be assigned to an "American," and can also wait until the organization gets back on its feet. The reason I used quotes above, is because there is discussion among the steering committee to change the name of the organization to AGA - Aquatic Gardeners Association. Although America can refer to the U.S., Canada, Mexico, etc., more often it does not. Therefore to recognize the large participation of the group's northern members, the committee would like to drop the word America. We will probably do this if administrative problems do not emerge, such as with transferring the bank account. In closing, I would like to shift to another subject - aquarium literature collecting. In the past, I have seen your want lists in CAL. Are you still looking for TFH, BB and other magazines. I have several of the issues that you were looking for, and am always interested in trading for things that I don't have. If you are still looking, let me know what you need and what duplicates you have. I am still actively collecting both books and magazines; my main interest still focuses on aquatic plants, although this has not constrained my collecting. Looking forward to your articles. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 1, 1990 Dear Paul, Remember the American Aquatic Gardeners Association? After almost two years of inactivity, the organization is finally approaching revival! In a month or two, you will be receiving a formal letter announcing the re-birth of the organization. All past members in good standing will receive automatic extensions of their membership, and be asked to continue their support to and participation in the new organization. I am writing to you because I will be the new editor of the group's publication and I need your support. You were a significant contributor to The Aquatic Gardener (TAG), and I hope that your interest with aquatic plants, fertilization, CO2 injection, etc., have continued. More importantly, I hope that you can continue to be a important contributor to our publication. I am working towards a January 1991 revival of the publication and can use articles for both the first and subsequent issues. The preferred format is 5 1/2" floppy disc in either wordperfect or ascii format. I can also currently receive information on Internet. If the latter are not possible, I will eagerly accept articles as hard copy. At this point, I am not soliciting articles on any particular topic, but in the future I will be calling for papers in specific subject areas. If you have previously submitted articles which were not published by Lyle Marshall, could you possibly resubmit these again to me. Incidently, the visual quality of the publication should be greatly improved. Please continue to be an active supporter of Aquatic Gardening. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 1, 1990 Dear Jack, Remember the American Aquatic Gardeners Association? After almost two years of inactivity, the organization is finally approaching revival! In a month or two, you will be receiving a formal letter announcing the re-birth of the organization. All past members in good standing will receive automatic extensions of their membership, and be asked to continue their support to and participation in the new organization. I am writing to you because I will be the new editor of the group's publication and I need your support. You have been an important contributor to the literature on aquatic plants and I hope that you can be a contributor to our forthcoming publication. I am working towards a January 1991 revival of the publication and can use articles for both the first and subsequent issues. The preferred format is 5 1/2" floppy disc in either wordperfect or ascii format. I can also currently receive information on Internet. If the latter are not possible, I will eagerly accept articles as hard copy. Unfortunately, I can not be as generous as Don Dewey. At this point, I am not soliciting articles on any particular topic, but in the future I will be calling for papers in specific subject areas. Please continue to be an active supporter of Aquatic Gardening. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 1, 1990 Dear Pat, Remember the American Aquatic Gardeners Association? After almost two years of inactivity, the organization is finally approaching revival! In a month or two, you will be receiving a formal letter announcing the re-birth of the organization. All past members in good standing will receive automatic extensions of their membership, and be asked to continue their support to and participation in the new organization. I am writing to you because I will be the new editor of the group's publication and I need your support. You have been a past contributor to The Aquatic Gardener (TAG) and I hope that you can continue be a contributor to our forthcoming publication. I am working towards a January 1991 revival of the publication and can use articles for both the first and subsequent issues. The preferred format is 5 1/2" floppy disc in either wordperfect or ascii format. I can also currently receive information on Internet. If the latter are not possible, I will eagerly accept articles as hard copy. At this point, I am not soliciting articles on any particular topic, but in the future I will be calling for papers in specific subject areas. Please continue to be an active supporter of Aquatic Gardening. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 1, 1990 Dear Bruce, Thanks for your recent letter and your offer to help with the Aquatic Gardeners Association. The organization is now rapidly approaching revival. Dorothy Reimer is the new membership chair and will soon have a membership application with which new members can join. I will be the editor of the publication. Within the next month or two, formal announcements will be made to all past members and others (who we know of) who have unsuccessfully attempted to join in the last 2 years. The target date for the new organization is January 1991, together with renewal of the publication. Since you are obviously quite interested in joining, I suggest that you submit the $15.00 application fee, made out to "Aquatic Gardeners Association" to: Dorothy Reimer 83 Cathcart St. London, Ontario CANADA N6C 3L9 If you have previously submitted a fee to Dick, this should be on its way to Dorothy. I also would like to take you up on your offer to help with the organization. It is a great way to get involved. Can you tell me something about yourself, indicating your background and special skills, so we can see where you can best serve. It will be helpful if you describe any previous organization experience (elected officer, committees, etc), especially with aquarium societies; if you have a personal computer, tell me about your experience with aquatic plants and with the aquarium hobby in general, and tell me what you would be most interested in doing. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 11, 1990 Dear George, Remember the American Aquatic Gardeners Association? After almost two years of inactivity, the organization is finally approaching revival! In a month or two, you will be receiving a formal letter announcing the re-birth of the organization. All past members in good standing will receive automatic extensions of their membership, and be asked to continue their support to and participation in the new organization. I am writing to you because I will be the new editor of the group's publication and I need your support. The other two principle players are Dorothy Reimer and Jare Sausaman. You have been a past contributor to The Aquatic Gardener (TAG) and I hope that you can continue be a contributor to our forthcoming publication. I am working towards a January 1991 revival of the publication and can use articles for both the first and subsequent issues. The preferred format is 5 1/2" floppy disc in either IBM wordperfect or ascii format. I can also currently receive information on Internet. If the latter are not possible, I will eagerly accept articles in written format. I encourage you to provide me with any article on any aquatic plant related topic: aquascaping, propagation, lighting, CO2, substrates, fertilization, filtration, etc., etc. An article previously published by a local club would be fine. Unpublished material would be even better! Please get back to me soon and let me know to what extent you can be involved. I will be happy to provide additional details and look forward to your response. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 17, 1990 Dear Dale, Thanks for the article and for the quick response to my request. I would be interested in hearing some more about the cost effective use of house plant fertilizers. In particular, our members should be interested in the need for and potential disadvantage of the nitrogen and phosphorus components of the product you mention. Some advocate avoiding these elements to avoid encouragement of algae. I suspect that in the small quantities that you mention, you would get enough iron, without significant N or P to worry about. Perhaps you could send be a brief additional note. I could either include your comment in an editorial introduction to the article, or let you expound upon the subject in more detail as a follow up. The first issue of the magazine is still scheduled for January. I plan to include minimal information about committees, but may mention committees that are currently in place. What should we say about the function and goals of the Technical Advisory Committee. Do you have a computer? If so, I would appreciate future submittals on a 5 1/2 " floppy disc. Thanks again for the submittal. Keep them coming. Hope to hear form you soon. 10/22/90 ************FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE************ The Aquatic Gardeners Association (AGA) is now accepting memberships. The annual dues are $15.00 for the United States, Canada & Mexico; $28.00 for other countries (payable in U.S. currency). Membership applications and other inquiries should be mailed to Dorothy Reimer, 83 Cathcart St., London, Ontario, CANADA N6C 3L9. The organization, formerly called the American Aquatic Gardeners Association (AAGA), was founded in 1985 by Dick Van Hyfte of Palo, IA. After a 3-year lull (1988-1990), the specialty group has been enthusiastically revived by a steering committee consisting of Neil Frank of Raleigh, NC; Jare Sausaman of Philadelphia, PA and Dorothy Reimer of London, Ontario. Unexpired 1988 memberships from the predecessor organization will be honored by the new association. The Aquatic Gardeners Association is dedicated to disseminate information about aquatic plants, to study the culture of aquatic and bog plants and to promote the aesthetics of planted aquaria and ponds. Neil Frank is the new editor for AGA's bimonthly publication, "The Aquatic Gardener." The first issue is scheduled for January 1991. Articles submitted for publication should be directed to Neil Frank, 6205 Lookout Loop, Raleigh, NC 27612. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 26, 1990 Dear Dorothy, I received your package and have sent out your letters to the three magazines. I decided to attach an additional "press release," which adds a little more information. I hoped that this would make it easier for them to say more about us. It is enclosed. In the remainder of the letter, I have grouped my random thoughts under headings to facilitate navigation. Unexpired memberships Note the comment in the press release about unexpired AAGA memberships. If we can't precisely determine the expiration month for the membership, I think that we could tell everyone that it will be April 1991, (unless they send you information that says otherwise). Computer Network I also posted the AGA information on the computer network that I told you about. I expect that you should soon be receiving applications for membership from these guys. By the way, did you ever hear from Fred Kratky; he said that he would get in touch with you to help you to "electronically" send me stuff. Money from Dick I talked to Dick last weekend, told him that we were almost ready to start up again. He knows that Jare is working on setting up the account. After I expressed my concern that Jare might not get through the bureaucracy in time, Dick volunteered to send me a $300. check to cover the cost of printing and mailing the first issue. (I think that the cost should be around $1.10 - $1.20 per person, including printing and mailing). Membership list - letter to old members It is now time to send a letter to the old members of the AAGA. This letter should come from you. If Jare hasn't established the account, I suggest that you contact Dick and ask for $50 - $100 or so, to cover the cost of your mailing, including envelopes and stamps. Since the word is getting out about the new Aquatic Gardeners Association, the old members shouldn't be the last to know, right? With this letter you could include a "membership application." It could be a simplified version of the one AAGA used and which we talked about in Chicago. It could also allow them to indicate their interest in receiving future mailings/publications. (We could even say that unless we hear back from them, they will not get the next mailing!!! - what do you think?) On the application, you can also have a space for personal information, talents, interest in getting involved, etc. I would be happy to help you with this. However, I don't think that creation of this "application" should hold up the letter. Send me a updated mailing list when you have it ready. A 5 1/2" computer diskette in IBM format (dBase) or mailing labels is fine, whichever is more convenient. The mailing label should eventually contain the membership expiration date. Column for the magazine I want you to write a regular "membership chair's" column for the magazine - probably, less than one page, per issue. It can discuss our membership status and any other items you think are pertinent. You could even include information about the inquiries you receive about the organization and even about your appearances at aquarium societies. In addition, I would like to publish all of our initial members and addresses in the first issue. I would like to then periodically add the new members. Of course, you could welcome them to the organization under your column. Also think about writing another column: "The Dorothy Reimer Method." In each issue you could quickly write something (short) about your involvement in the plant hobby. For example - your use of chicken grit or the type of filtration you use. I would be very happy to work with you and help you in any way I can - organization of ideas, editorial help, etc. If you send me something rough, I could formalize it, if you like. Another column I just though about is a question and answer format. I imagine we will start receiving questions. All of us could participate in coming up with the answers. We can then publish this in the magazine. Reprints Thanks for the reprints. They are in my growing file. I may need to talk to you some more about the source of these articles. In some cases, the magazine is not indicated, and the date of publication is missing. I would prefer to indicate the year of publication. Also, thanks for the Canadian Fish Fanciers. Jim Robinson's article on aquarium plants would be good reprint material. This article was part 3 - do you have the other parts? Also, more importantly, do you know Robinson. We would need his permission or that from the publishers. He might also may have original articles to contribute. Non-profit Status and Bulk Mail Permit I have looked into both of these items and have determined that we could save money by getting a bulk mail permit for the US. This would make sense if we were going to do 12 mailings per year (6 magazines on the odd months and 6 different mailings on the other months) and if the majority of our members are still in the US. For $60 per year we can reduce mailing costs for both letters and up to 3 ounce publications to 16.5 cents. This would save us 8cents per letter or 29-49 cents per magazine. It also avoids licking stamps. We could have the permit printed for the US deliveries. Unfortunately, it doesn't help with Canada. My suggestion is to wait to see if we are going to do a "Plant and Materials Listing" I think that I would have a volunteer for this job. What do you think? If we decide to do this, then I think that we should get the bulk permit. If we decide to use bulk mail, an even better idea is to get not-for-profit status. I looked over the regulations, and it seems to me that we would qualify as a horticultural organization whose purpose is to improve the knowledge regarding the cultivation of aquatic plants. (There is a special IRS category for agricultural and horticultural organizations). Unfortunately, the IRS filing fee (one time) is $160. If we think that the organization is going to last at least 2-3 years, it would be worth it. (of course, we think that the organization is going to last, or we wouldn't be involved, right?) With nonprofit status, we would still need the annual post office permit, but then the US mailing fees drop to 8 cents per mailing. This would give us the luxury to use the mail for different things. If we decide to do the Plant and materials Listing, then I think that we should apply for nonprofit. The only thing that we will need is a constitution. Can you look at the one that I sent you, make the necessary changes and send it back to me to for my final review. I think that we should keep it simple. That's all for now, so I can get it to the post office. Neil cc. Jare October 26, 1990 Jare - This is a separate note for you. Because of your vast experience with aquarium publications, I want your input on some things specifically dealing with the publication. Title of the publication will be the same as before - "The Aquatic Gardener" I am trying to get the drawing of the lace plant and continue to use it as the logo. I will make appropriate changes in the cover format. I shall number the next issue, as issue number 1 of a new Volume 3 or 4 (whatever is one more than where we left off). Should we say something on the cover page to indicate that this is the "premier" issue of the revised publication? I would like to change the format to Buntbarshe Bulletin style. I think that this would give us a completely different look and probably arrive better through the mails. What do you think? Initially, it will be photocopied. If the number of copies ever gets to be 400-500 or more, we can afford printing. I will use a heavy paper for the cover. I am looking into affordable alternatives for 20 pound copy paper. I want the magazine to have a decent appearance. Eventually, I want to include black and white photos. I will have to find people to supply them. Page numbering - should the outside cover page be pages 1 and 2? Should the pages be numbered consecutively among issue numbers within volume, or should issue 2 start over with page 1? Do you have any more thoughts about reprint articles? Do you know if the old stuff is still copyrighted? Let me know what other suggestions you have. Also let me know what you think of the things in the letter to Dorothy - regarding bulk mail, constitution, etc. P.S. I never got to meet with Klee. His plans changed. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 26, 1990 Dear Bruce, There are two opportunities to immediately get involved with the Aquatic Gardeners Association (AGA). The first is to submit an article for "The Aquatic Gardener." I be most interested in learning, for example, about your techniques for propagating plants. The second is to become our HAP liaison, the link to the Horticultural Award Program (HAP) Chairs from local Aquarium Societies and the Federation of American Aquarium Societies (FAAS). I am hoping that this activity will help publicize the group and get me articles for the publication. This position did not exist under the old organization, but I think it is important. As I see it, this job will establish communications with the existing network of serious plant hobbyists. Some of them may have been members of the original AAGA. Through them, we can help publicize the existence of the AGA, and from them we can receive articles that have been published in local aquarium society publications. We can then selectively distribute them nationally, through our publication. I am not a member of the AKA, but I suspect that this organization also has a lot of plant keepers. This may be another logical organization with which to make contact. Mary Lou Rogers is the HAP chairperson for FAAS. Her address is 2212 Lakeside N.W., Canton, OH 44708. If you are interested in this "job," write her a letter (on behalf of the AGA) and find out what information she can provide and if she has a list of the HAP chairs from local societies. With this in hand, you can decide how they should be approached to accomplish our goals. Let me know what you think. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 26, 1990 Dear Paul, I was glad to hear from you and to receive your article. I totally agree with your request to have The Aquatic Gardener in an improved format. I also plan to include illustrations, if I can get any. Line drawings and black and white photographs can easily be incorporated. Hopefully, some of our members will be able to provide the pictures. I had not previously heard the idea about reducing the AGA membership fee in return for articles. I know that this approach is used with other organizations, so perhaps it would be worth a try. I will discuss it with the others. I also agree that it would be a good idea to get the members involved in "research." If you want to submit some ideas, we can publish them in the magazine. I guess I wasn't clear when I said I could read 5 1/2" floppy diskettes. Unfortunately, I can't read a disk formatted for the Apple. Check with your schools computer center to see if they support Internet or Bitnet. This is a computer network that links thousands of colleges and universities throughout the world. Through this network, you could electronically send me text files at no charge. We have set the following dues for the new orgainization: $15.00 for the United States, Canada & Mexico; $28.00 for other countries (payable in U.S. currency). Membership applications should be mailed to Dorothy Reimer, 83 Cathcart St., London, Ontario, CANADA N6C 3L9. Hopefully, you got back your check for $12.00. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 27, 1990 Dear Bob, I am starting to pull together the first issue of "The Aquatic Gardener." Since I am changing its format to 5 1/2" to 8 1/2", I decided to retype your article, "Flower and Seed Production in Cryptocoryne." I want to include it in the first issue (January 1991). As I was typing and reading, some questions came to me. Some of the answers will probably be brief, while others could be topics for future articles. I also wondered if I were crazy to be retyping an error free manuscript. You indicate that you suggest the use of rainwater. As you know, rainwater is quite acidic in the midwest. Is the low pH and high sulfate concentration of rainwater a concern? There is variation in the spectrum among flourescent lights. What brand "Gro-Lux" and full spectrum bulbs do you use? There are some that advocate not using glass covers over aquaria filled with water, in order to reduce potential attenuation. I do not yet know to what extent attenuation occurs. I wondered if you had any ideas on this subject, when I read that you use covers to maintain humidity. What do you use for the cover (e.g. single strength or double strength glass)? Do you think that glass has an effect on the light produced by flourescent lamps? Do you think that glass covers have an effect on the light reaching submerged plants in an aquarium? What are your experiences in growing crypts in submersed form? Do you have an original of your drawing, to permit a clearer reproduction for the magazine. I would like to indicate the source - is it your original or is it from a publication? Kindly give me a title for the figure. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 29, 1990 Dear Dick, Can you please send me your lace plant artwork or let me know if you do not have it. I must know its status, so I can proceed with the preparation of "The Aquatic Gardener." If I need to look for other artwork for the cover, I must know this now. There are a million things that I am currently doing and I can't afford to be short on time. Also, another very important item is the check for $300 to cover the cost of printing and mailing the first issue. If you haven't already done so, please make it out and get it in the mail today. Let me know if there will be a delay. Sincerely, P.S. Announcements for the revival of the organization and for the January 1991 issue of TAG have been sent to FAMA, TFH, Aquarium Fish and FAAS. A copy of the press release is enclosed. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 October 29, 1990 Mike - I still need those things that I wrote you about a few months ago: 1. Your plant article voted best by FAAS (Our first issue of the journal is scheduled for January 1991) 2. Your committment to the Aquatic Gardeners Association (Will you be rare and unusual species committee chair?) 3. Plant price list for aquarium club and/or retail shop Please respond soon. Let me know about life in the plant business. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 November 4, 1990 Dear Dale, I just came across your HAP report on Crypt affinis in The Calquarium. I think that it is worthy of reprinting in The Aquatic Gardener. Do you have any objections? If not, do you have other articles that could also be used as reprint material. In most cases, I would only use articles previously published if I don't have enough original material. I want to build up a library of previously published club material to (1) have a cushion for TAG to fall back on, (2) to recirculate good information on plants and (3) to have one publication in which to find this information. Do you have illustrations or photos of aquatic plants that I could use in TAG. I have come across some good line drawings in a few aquarium books (e.g. H.C.D. de Wit., Aquarium Plants) and am requesting permission from the publisher. I am a little reluctant to use them without permission. Of course, I would give credit to the source. Do you think formal permission is necessary for this? Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 November 4, 1990 Dear Bruce, I was so glad to hear that you were interested. For lack of a better committee title, I am calling your position "Aquarium Society Horticultural Liason." I was also glad that you wrote, because in the last issue of the FAAS Report, the Horticultural Award contact has been changed to Dave Knelson. His address is 51 Kindling Cres, Sackville, N.S. Canada B4E 2V1. For your submittal of AGA information to the AKA, I enclose a copy of a "press release" that I prepared. Under Dorothy Reimer's cover letter, this was sent to FAMA, TFH, Aquarium Fish magazines and to FAAS. Dorothy will be the contact and will have information to send out in response to requests for membership. I totally agree with your idea about a "beginners column." I had similar ideas along these lines, but do not yet have a series of articles with which to implement. I definitely want the journal to appeal to both the beginner and advanced aquarist. In the first issue I am including an article by Mike Trzonkowsky on his simple recipe for success. We may have to include several articles along these lines, since there may not be one way to do it. Later on, I would like to see some critical analyses to look for the common denomentators. By the way, until you get your computer, I would be happy to type any of your submittals. (Unless of course, you are like me and can hardly write anymore without a PC!) Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 November 9, 1990 Dear Jare and Dorothy: Good News! Correction, GREAT NEWS!! I just received a $300 check from Dick, as an advance on the publication costs. It was written on the old AAGA account. I guess we are definitely set now. Jare: How are you doing with establishing the AGA account? I have been making a lot of progress on the January publication. I have been getting prices from printers. I have been most recently working on the boiler plate. I have adopted some things from the original TAG publication and some from other society publications. Since this material includes policy and society purpose, I request that each of you review it. Please mark it up and make any needed changes, additions or deletions. Note: I want our stated purpose to be consistent with the criteria for establishing non-profit status. Under IRS code 501(c)(5), Horticultural organizations may be tax exempt (i.e. nonprofit) if their primary purpose relate to "techniques of production,..., development of efficiency, or improvement of the grade of products." Under 501(c)(7), social and recreation clubs, including hobby clubs can also qualify. For these we must show evidence that fellowship exist among members. "Members must be bound together by a common objective directed towards pleasure, recreation and other nonprofitable purposes." aquatic plant culturing techniques. I think this will justify non-profit status, when and if we ever apply. I have written several letters to publishers of aquarium books (U.S., England, Holland), requesting permission to reprint illustrations. I think the publication can benefit from good line drawings which can be found in the literature. I briefly checked into copyright laws and it seems that approval may be needed for anything published after 1934. Several societies appear to reprint from books, but I don't feel comfortable without at least attempting to get permission. Jare: if you come across any pre-1934 stuff involving line drawings of plants or planted aquaria, let me know (to see if I already have it), or send me a good photocopy. Dorothy: I enclose three membership checks from Raleigh (including one from me). One is from Jim Bellina who was one of the 2 guys selling plants up at the Chicago ACA convention. Coincidentally, he just moved to Raleigh. I have been corresponding with Bruce Watts of California. He had been writing to Dick, because he wanted to get involved in the AAGA. Dick referred him to me. I offered him the "jobs" of writing articles for the journal and becoming the "Horticulture Liaison with Aquarium Societies." I suggested the latter position, in part, to get us previously published articles from the various Horticultural Award Committees. He eagerly accepted both opportunities. I hope the "appointment" is OK with the two of you. Let me know if your have any ideas how we should handle the next "volunteer." I got Lyle Marshall's phone no. and called him. He is undergoing chemo-therapy and says that he is reasonably stable. He said that he was sitting on my letter until he was in a better position to know if he could make a commitment. He was very soft spoken on the phone, but he indicated that he would like to do the Plant and Materials Listing. Since it had always been 1 page, he thought this would be within his capabilities. he said that he can't bend over the typewriter for too long. What do you think about this. Do we want to do the P & L Listing? If so, when. If we do one, I think that it should be on the even months (like trading post) and that we should not start it before April. Dorothy: Can you give Lyle a call and see how you feel about it. Lyle is supposed to check his files for any useful publication materials. He is also going to inventory back issues. He says he has a substantial number (too many to ship to me) and has all issues except one. He says he would be willing to do a mailing of back issue sales from Michigan. Once I get his letter, I could advertise availability of back issues. I suggest selling them for $2.00 each. Since we will have other (new) back issues in the future, I should be the contact point listed in the magazine. I could then forward the "orders" to Lyle for shipping. Mike Korzeniewski sent me some HAP articles and indicated that he wants to be a Committee Chair. Dorothy: You know him - what do your think he should do? Jare: any comments on the publication numbering conventions. If I don't hear from you, the first issue of The Aquatic Gardener will be Vol. 4, No. 1, with the 2 sides of the cover page counting as p.1 & 2. The cover for the first issue will have a half-tone of a planted aquarium and hopefully will change with each issue. Jare: can you send me the first published issue of the AAGA publication, if you have any extra. I don't seem to have it. Also, can you check your set and let me know what issues were published. I want to confirm that I have all of the others that were published. Finally, I submit for your consideration an idea to solicit advertisers for the TAG. I think that it can generate a lot of revenue and permit us to do more with the publication. My feeling is that the better the publication, the more members we will get and keep. That's all for now. Responses / Comments Needed on: 1. Boilerplate - policy 2. How to handle volunteers/next needed job 3. Publication numbering convention 4. List of published issue of TAG 5. P & L Listing - when and by whom 6. Selling of back issues thru Lyle 7. Approval and suggested changes to advertising plan: a. Approval to print 40 extra copies of January 1991 TAG b. Rates, combined with "corporate" membership C Changes to Manufacturers list Sincerely, Advertising Proposal I think that we should accept advertising from manufacturers, provided that we charge enough to cover our expenses and to also make a reasonable profit. This could be a useful fund raiser. I propose the following schedule. 3 issues 6 issues 6 issues (1/2 year) (1 year) (1 year, including AGA membership) 1 page $60 $100 $125 1/2 page $35 $60 $75 1/4 page $20 $35 $50 (These rates are based on an annual printing and mailing budget of approximately $1200-$1500; - for 200-250 members. As our membership grows and we need to print/mail more issues, we would have to adjust the rates upward or reduce the allocated space to advertising. These rates are approximately double those discussed in previous AAGA board correspondence.) What do you think about these rates? If we decide to do it, I would be willing to send a letter to prospective advertisers - companies that make plant products - lights, fertilizers, CO2, those that sell plants - companies in which our members are also interested. I suggest that we wait until we can send them a copy of the first magazine. I think that the investment in making extra copies for this purpose should pay off. I have come up with a list of about 25. With this number, we wouldn't need to invest too much at first. This would also keep it manageable. I request your approval to print an extra 40 copies for this purpose. If you have any ideas who different should be on the list, let me know. I came up with the following: Hawaiian Marine Imports (Eheim products) Aquarium Products (Triton bulbs) Hagen (filters, peat moss, etc.) Sandpoint Aquarium Products (Controllers, filters) Energy Savers Unlimited (lighting systems, plant food, carbonate hardness controller) Rainbow Lifegard Aquarium Products (lighting) Horizon Growers Nursery (Tropica Aquarium Plants - danish) Tetra Sales J.P. Burleson, Inc. (Dupla Products) Execufish (Execulite fixtures, bulbs, we-dry filters) Discus Haven (RO filtration systems) Innovate Corporation (Siporax filter material) Joe Gargas (______________) Hamilton Technology Corp. (lighting systems - fluorescent and metal halide) Regal Discus (freshwater we-dry filters and RO units) Rena (lighting supplies) Python Products (water changer) Aquarium Lights, Inc (complete line of aquarium lighting) AquariumInstruments (monitoring products, incl. pH controllers) DLS Aquatics (filters and lighting) Biotype Life Support Systems (_____________) Thiel Aqua Tech (_________________) Delaware Aquatic Imports (plants) Back to nature Filtration (RO units) I would appreciate your responses as soon as possible. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 Mike Kornzeniewski November 9, 1990 Dear Mike, Thanks for your articles and your offer to help. Dorothy, Jare and I haven't yet determined what committee should be filled next. Either she or I will be getting back to you real soon. By the way, in case you didn't realize it, I was one of the others at the ACA in Chicago, who was talking about reviving the AGA. In fact, I enlisted Dorothy! Now, back to your articles. They were great and the type of material I want to include in The Aqutic Gardener. I have 3 brief questions: First, is something missing from the 4th paragraph. You say "With regular pruning,...against the plant developing into a small undernourished forms." Was a line of text dropped between the last 2 words? Second, what address should I include with your article when I publish it in TAG. Third, are your articles on an IBM compatible computer. If so, could you send me a 5 1/2" diskette in either ascii/dos format or wordperfect format. This would save me a lot of typing. Also, if you have such capability, would you be willing to help with the typing for those articles which I receive in hard copy. Finally, thanks for the GDAS bulletin. I was wondering who was sending it. Sincerely, Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 November 17, 1990 Dear Dale, In response to your 9 Nov letter - Regarding publication exchanges, I do not believe that AGA can afford to exchange TAG with aquarium societies. In time, we would be expected to exchange with 50 or more societies. This would cost us approximately $300 per year (printing and postage). Maybe in the future, we should consider this. I would prefer to get reprint material directly from authors and others who have access to club publications. Of course, AGA would provide author's and society's copies when required. Regarding reprinting of illustrations, I have received permission, so far, from 2 publishers - TFH and Great Outdoors Publishing. Hopefully, I will recieve others. On a new subject, can you enlighten me about the technical journals that deal with aquatic plants. Are there any that I should be looking at. I can investigate them in the university library. Sincerely, P.S. Dorothy tells me that she has received at least 40 new memberships to the AGA. Neil Frank 6205 Lookout Loop Raleigh, NC 27612 (919) 848-3763 November 17, 1990 Dear Mike, Thanks for your recent letter and confidential comments. Also, thanks for your over to help me with the typing and with transferring files to me on 5 1/2" wordperfect diskettes. I would give you plenty of lead time, say 1 month or more. Accordingly, I enclose a few items on which you can get started. Don't worry about grammar, etc. I will reformat into final form. I, too, am not a botanist or even a biologist. I am just an aquarium keeper, who has had a keen interest and fascination with aquatic plants ever since I started in the hobby almost 40 years ago. I got involved with the management of the Aquatic Gardeners Association out of frustration with its inactivity and not wanting it to die. No one else was willing to step forward. In fact, in April of this year I had become temporary President. I received moral support from Ron Wheeler and Ray Lucas (1988 board members) as well as from Dick Van Hyfte, Joan Glasscock and Jare Sausaman (other board members). Unfortunately, with the exception of Jare, no one was willing to do much more than answer board letters. As you know, you can't run an organization on advice alone. After shaking the bushes for several months, and almost giving up entirely, a deal was struck in Chicago. I became editor (which was understood as being at least as important as president), Dorothy agreed to take care of membership and Jare to be treasurer. The three of us felt that we would do our best to get the organization back on its feet, and as a "steering committee," we would try to do without "president." So far we are doing fine. The first issue of The Aquatic Gardener (the journal of the AGA), will be mailed out in early January. I am finalizing it now. By the way, I hope this explanation clears up the difference between AGA and TAG. And we did decide to drop American from the old name. We go Dick Van Hyfte to agree. I originally brought up the idea. Dorothy concurred that American is not synonymous with North American, but instead tends to refer to the U.S. At least that was one Canadian's point of view. We felt that the change would make the organization more international and hopefully would allow us to attract more members. When you overhear any new conversations about the credentials of the steering committee, please refer the skeptics to me. But only, if they are willing to help. We can definitely use more people. After several months of operation, we probably will re-institute a board and adopt new bi-laws. For now, our priority is to re-establish credibility by putting out a good publication. This is what I promise to do. Some of the names you mention have already been contacted. Bob Clark's article on flowering crypts will be in the January issue of TAG. (Ron Wheeler recruited him). I have already written a letter to Arie de Graaf (whom I had the pleasure of meeting at the ICC in Orlando). Do you know him? I also wrote to Barry james, with whom I had corresponded in the past. As you may know, Barry was a co-founder of the International Society of Aquatic Plants in 1986 or 1987, but did not seem to get off the ground. Finally, I will be seeing Bob Gasser next month in Florida. I may not keep that many plants, but until someone else comes along, I will do the job. (By the way, I do maintain plants in 10-12 tanks and am now building my first open plant tank, a 70g with 4-6 bulbs) I believe that Dorothy will do a great job at recruiting new members. She is not a scientist whose expertise is in identifying plant species, but from what I have heard, she knows how to grow them. She has a love for plants and to me that is more important than being fluent in Latin. Others in the organization will help out on the technical side. Dale Speirs, for example, is in charge of the Technical Advisory Committee. But Identifying plants will not be his charge. Plant ID's is a real problem in the industry. Besides the misnaming of plants, there are so many synonyms. In some cases, the plant may come out of Florida as something like Echinodorus florida. One of the projects I would like to see AGA tackle is to develop a guide which matches the plant names the growers use vs. the names we see in the books. Of course, we couldn't do this with plants that require flowers for positive ID's. Tell me about Jim Langhammer. Ross Socolof mentioned Jim's name to me as someone who I may want to approach for the AGA. I never met him. I believe that the people who join the AGA may not necessarily know about plants, at least at first. What is important is that they want to learn about them. We will attract enough people who either know about them or know what questions to ask. My interest deals more with the latter. One of the functions of TAG will be to provide a forum for exchanging ideas, raising questions and proving answers. Sometimes, we will publish opinions and will see both sides of an issue presented. We will publish ideas for conducting research to answer question; research that can be performed by hobbyists in the laboratory of their fish room (or should I start saying plant room). We will be debating some topics, that may never be resolved. We may also find that there is not one way to grow plants, at least to the satisfaction of the average hobbyist. The same is true for fish. Moving to another important subject - I definitely want you to be part of the team. I like your enthusiasm. However, I can't give you a specific job. In part, because I don't know and can't decide by myself what is the next priority. If you don't mind, just hang in there for now. If you have any ideas, or hear about something that others think the organization needs, let me know. You say that you have been involved in the hobby 25 years. Have you been involved with other organizations? Obviously, you seem to be involved with the AA. Now that I see that I am on page 3, I must close this off. I don't have a great source for plants. One is Swanee nursery near Tampa. I haven't ordered from Delaware Aquatics in a few years. Mike used to have nice stuff, esp. crypts. As far a conventions go, that is far off in the future, not for at least 1 year,may be two. It all depends on the groundswell, and the amount of criticism we may get. Let me know what you hear. Sincerely, P.S. Were those HAP articles you sent me previously published by GDAS. If so, can you tell me when. When I reprint stuff, I like to date it. I had assumed that you were sending me those HAP articles and to GDAS at the same time. I will be including the Barclaya in the January issue. I even have a line drawing to accompany the text. I will do it as a GDAS reprint if you prefer, but it will come across better if it just had your name. P.S.S. I would like to add one add'l detail to your Barclaya article - in what depth water were they under the 2 48" lights. I can modify your text by saying, "My bulbs were placed in ___ deep ___ gallon tanks, ... ." Please write back quickly or call. Thanks.
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