Additional information notwithstanding, I think there's a clear choice here for hotel. If the hotel is surrounded by office buidlings, there must be at least lunch restaurants around the place. I loved the hills behind Berkeley, when I lived out there. They are great for hiking and walks. If it's November, there should be not a problem with rattlesnakes or poison oak. ;-) Mt. Tamalpai, on the Marin side of the coast is also nice to see, but not as good for hiking. I wouldn't mind tripping across the bay and trekking again to City Lights Bookstore, provided I can afford to go out west at all :-\ and Gregory Corso is hanging around drunk insulting passersby ;-) sh --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote: > Telephone call with Jim Lockhart today. Posting to > steering only so as to > not bother Michael Skidmore (who I think will be an asset > ultimately). > Most information already known on aga-conheads list, but > repeating it for > the record here: > > They went to three Oakland hotels a week ago (Jim and > Michael Skidmore). > Jack London Inn was in a nice area, but the place was > pretty run-down and > needed work. Jim says: "I wouldn't stay there". End of > story! > > The Marriott was located downtown, nice hotel old-style > marble and all > that. Huge convention center. Lots of space. Rooms > quoted at $105 per > night (occupancy unknown). Banquet and Meeting room > rental unknown, > comped if $5000 in meals purchased. Banquet price > unknown. > > The Park Plaza http://www.parkplazaoakland.com is right > near the airport, > has a 24x7 shuttle to the airport and BART. Jim saw at > least three vans. > The meeting/banquet facilities have two large rooms. The > California room > measures up to 29x70' (2030 sq ft), holds 300 people > according to the > website. One wall has windows looking out -- will need > to be sure they > can be blackened! A second room, "Monterey" is about 60% > of that size, > located nearby (I think across the hall based on the map > I'm looking at > right now). Would make a nice vendor room/overflow, but > has a couple of > posts in the middle that make it difficult to use as a > theater room. > > The Park Plaza is not as upscale as the Marriott, but > it's got 180 rooms, > a pool, coffee-shop-style restaurant & bar. Jim says: > "Comfortable > place -- we'd probably have the run of it". It's > surrounded by office > space. > > Banquets quoted at $30, rooms at $99 (occupancy unknown). > $1500 worth of > banquet/catering will get us the rental space for free. > They are willing > to negotiate. And they can hook up a hose to fill tanks > in the banquet > room. > > Michael Skidmore is majorly onboard working on this bid. > He is very > active, belonging to all the regional aquarium societies, > "like the > cichlid one". He's also helping with the advertising and > making sure the > committee heads are here. Bill Harada is also helping on > advertising -- > he's the guy who did that website revamp last week. Jim > says there are > lots of members interested. > > Gomberg is noticably quiet now. Jim sez: "I think he's > sitting back > thinking we're all going to fall flat on our faces and > then he can rush in > and save everything." > > Jim asked what they'd need for a preliminary bid. I told > him the hotel > prelims were very important, so he's doing the right > homework. We also > need the list of committee heads so we know there's a > dedicated team > that's going to stick with it. Also any field trip ideas > (he was a bit > surprised -- I reiterated we don't HAVE to have field > trips, people are > quite good at organizing things on their own), and > speaker ideas. He was > a little skittish about posting speaker names, because > the last time he > did something like that it ended up on APC. I > commiserated, having > recently seen 13 people sign up for our forum that > doesn't exist yet, and > suggested he could e-mail this to the board privately. > > I reiterated that having the hotel worked out is the most > important part. > >From there on out it's just a matter of staying on > things, advertising, > and following through. He's going to put something > together in the next > week (away this weekend), and post to conheads. > > > OK, so my personal thoughts: > > They are going in the right direction now. They found > three difference > price ranges & are converging on what is going to work > for their budget. > > Marriott feels like DC all over again...like we'd be > running our > credit line to the max making that deal. Loads of stress > and negotiating. > > I like the Park Plaza. It sounds really doable. Take a > peek at their > website. It looks like a nice place. They can be > negotiated (I just > checked online and I can get a room for next month at > $99. Also, what > happens if we bring in $3000 worth of banquets?). But > even if we are too > burned out to negotiate, we're not going to be sitting on > the edge of our > chairs if only 50 people show up. That would certainly > make me, at least, > "feel good". :) > > - Erik > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc