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Re: [AGA-sc] SFBAAPS/2006 Update
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- Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] SFBAAPS/2006 Update
- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:10:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Additional information notwithstanding, I think there's a
clear choice here for hotel. If the hotel is surrounded by
office buidlings, there must be at least lunch restaurants
around the place.
I loved the hills behind Berkeley, when I lived out there.
They are great for hiking and walks. If it's November,
there should be not a problem with rattlesnakes or poison
oak. ;-) Mt. Tamalpai, on the Marin side of the coast is
also nice to see, but not as good for hiking.
I wouldn't mind tripping across the bay and trekking again
to City Lights Bookstore, provided I can afford to go out
west at all :-\ and Gregory Corso is hanging around drunk
insulting passersby ;-)
sh
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> Telephone call with Jim Lockhart today. Posting to
> steering only so as to
> not bother Michael Skidmore (who I think will be an asset
> ultimately).
> Most information already known on aga-conheads list, but
> repeating it for
> the record here:
>
> They went to three Oakland hotels a week ago (Jim and
> Michael Skidmore).
> Jack London Inn was in a nice area, but the place was
> pretty run-down and
> needed work. Jim says: "I wouldn't stay there". End of
> story!
>
> The Marriott was located downtown, nice hotel old-style
> marble and all
> that. Huge convention center. Lots of space. Rooms
> quoted at $105 per
> night (occupancy unknown). Banquet and Meeting room
> rental unknown,
> comped if $5000 in meals purchased. Banquet price
> unknown.
>
> The Park Plaza http://www.parkplazaoakland.com is right
> near the airport,
> has a 24x7 shuttle to the airport and BART. Jim saw at
> least three vans.
> The meeting/banquet facilities have two large rooms. The
> California room
> measures up to 29x70' (2030 sq ft), holds 300 people
> according to the
> website. One wall has windows looking out -- will need
> to be sure they
> can be blackened! A second room, "Monterey" is about 60%
> of that size,
> located nearby (I think across the hall based on the map
> I'm looking at
> right now). Would make a nice vendor room/overflow, but
> has a couple of
> posts in the middle that make it difficult to use as a
> theater room.
>
> The Park Plaza is not as upscale as the Marriott, but
> it's got 180 rooms,
> a pool, coffee-shop-style restaurant & bar. Jim says:
> "Comfortable
> place -- we'd probably have the run of it". It's
> surrounded by office
> space.
>
> Banquets quoted at $30, rooms at $99 (occupancy unknown).
> $1500 worth of
> banquet/catering will get us the rental space for free.
> They are willing
> to negotiate. And they can hook up a hose to fill tanks
> in the banquet
> room.
>
> Michael Skidmore is majorly onboard working on this bid.
> He is very
> active, belonging to all the regional aquarium societies,
> "like the
> cichlid one". He's also helping with the advertising and
> making sure the
> committee heads are here. Bill Harada is also helping on
> advertising --
> he's the guy who did that website revamp last week. Jim
> says there are
> lots of members interested.
>
> Gomberg is noticably quiet now. Jim sez: "I think he's
> sitting back
> thinking we're all going to fall flat on our faces and
> then he can rush in
> and save everything."
>
> Jim asked what they'd need for a preliminary bid. I told
> him the hotel
> prelims were very important, so he's doing the right
> homework. We also
> need the list of committee heads so we know there's a
> dedicated team
> that's going to stick with it. Also any field trip ideas
> (he was a bit
> surprised -- I reiterated we don't HAVE to have field
> trips, people are
> quite good at organizing things on their own), and
> speaker ideas. He was
> a little skittish about posting speaker names, because
> the last time he
> did something like that it ended up on APC. I
> commiserated, having
> recently seen 13 people sign up for our forum that
> doesn't exist yet, and
> suggested he could e-mail this to the board privately.
>
> I reiterated that having the hotel worked out is the most
> important part.
> >From there on out it's just a matter of staying on
> things, advertising,
> and following through. He's going to put something
> together in the next
> week (away this weekend), and post to conheads.
>
>
> OK, so my personal thoughts:
>
> They are going in the right direction now. They found
> three difference
> price ranges & are converging on what is going to work
> for their budget.
>
> Marriott feels like DC all over again...like we'd be
> running our
> credit line to the max making that deal. Loads of stress
> and negotiating.
>
> I like the Park Plaza. It sounds really doable. Take a
> peek at their
> website. It looks like a nice place. They can be
> negotiated (I just
> checked online and I can get a room for next month at
> $99. Also, what
> happens if we bring in $3000 worth of banquets?). But
> even if we are too
> burned out to negotiate, we're not going to be sitting on
> the edge of our
> chairs if only 50 people show up. That would certainly
> make me, at least,
> "feel good". :)
>
> - Erik
>
> --
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
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