----- Original Message ---- From: Cheryl Rogers To: AGA Board Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:03:47 PM Subject: [AGA-sc] was gregwatson now membership >. . .We currently have 683 members. >When I generated the mailing list in November 2005, we had 727 members. 113 people who expired with that issue have so far declined to renew. We have had 41 new members since November 2005. I don't think these numbers are particularly unusual." > Just based on the need to transfer funds occasionally, summer seemed to be very slow but the last month or so has picked up. >However, membership has been slowly declining since November 2004, when we had 850 members. I attribute this to a lack of an AGA convention in 2005. So having a convention (or not) affects our membership in a big way. > It might be the lack of convention or it could be due to other reasons -- like other places to go for info, slumpy economy generally. . . >We could argue whether membership was artificially inflated by the fact that folks are *required* to join if they want to attend the talks, but I don't believe that the majority of people who register for the convention are joining only because they must. > I don't think it was artificially inflated since, iirc, we didn't see big spikes around conventions. > But we have a little money to burn and while I'm certainly not advocating that we spend willy nilly, we *could* afford to spend a little dough on advertising and *see* whether it works. > The problem is that a *little* advertising isn't generally what works. I think one of the root things in marketing is that the message/exposure should be clear, frequent, repeated and effectiveness is generally a function of those things. I don't have a problem with spending on advertising but I think we should have a plan and scope in mind for something more than a dabble here or there. Not that anyone has suggested a dabble. I only mean to say, I think we need to get on the horse and ride if we want to get anything noticeable out of advertising. Just walking the horse won't get us very far. I could be wrong -- I'm not a marketing expert, this is just what I have heard. > Or print The Basics even though it's expensive. > Great. How do we deliver it? A mailing separate for TAG or as an enclosure (lap flap)? It is available on line for download for anyone that wants it so I would be hesitant to do a separate mailing. But as an added enclosure, that could be nice. Some further editing first maybe. And maybe then we could do one or tow on the Intermiediates and then on Advanced Topics > Or sponsor an experiment. > In the last few years I don't recall hearing one that didn't sound either wonky or unlikely to produce meaningful results. But I wouldn't mind spending some money on experiment or study provided it was promising. And If we announced that we were offering some money to be award to the best proposal, we might hear some better experiments or studies. > Or pay the Treasurer a salary. > The Treasurer is getting what he's earned. But some genuine accounting advice could be very useful. >Or hire a lawyer. > I don't think we have enough money for that unless we have a specific legal issue to resolve. > Or buy insurance. > Only insurance companies can afford that! > Or software. > Glad you brought it up. I was gong to ask for $64 to upgrade the Quicken. >whatever. > > If we could point to marked increases from specific types of exposure, or > special reasons why one exposure might be especially beneficial, then I'd say > that it's worth the gamble to to buy or swap space for more of that kind of > exposure and see what happens. However, I don't see anything like that on the > horizon. >I understand the logic. And Scott, this is directed at the entire Board and not just you. But Pardon Me, how will we ever find out if we don't TRY? Or hire a professional? Or do something besides whine about membership and how much work we're all doing? > >It's *embarrassing* to me to have so much money in the bank and not be doing anything with it. I believe that we are letting the organization and the members down. Even if we try something and fail, the board is not doing its job if we sit on a wad of the *member's* cash like a grouchy old hen on a nest. >If the rest of you don't agree, fine. I'll sit down and shut up after this. > If I understand you correctly, I agree. I think we should turn some of the money into active use for the membership. > Scott said previously: Not being as creative, I'll raise again an old idea: > Big TAG. Since TAG is our biggest reason for folks to join, a Big TAG still > might be our best chance to increase membership. If we did increase > membership with Big TAG, we probably wouldn't have a net increase in > revenues; we might even have a net loss for a period of time but I think, > given a year or so we could reach more folks *and* remain solvent, and that > fits within our mission. Maybe we could hook it's premiere into the promo for > 2006 convention somehow. >Scott, you are right. This is still a good idea. But with membership numbers down, and falling, I don't feel comfortable with committing to a big TAG in perpetuity. You mentioned before that perhaps a single, special issue Big Tag could be a compromise. I think that would be a good way to give back to the members some of their hard-earned money. > I don't think we could afford to do it in perpetuity. I think we could afford to do it for 2-4 issues, depending on how, if at all, it affected enrollments. I think we definitely could at least commit to one special issue of Big TAG without placing the AGA in financial jeopardy. I think we could take it one issue at a time, or maybe better, every other issue at a time. We plan on for fall 2006 and Summer 2007 and if it looks imprudent to do another after fall 2006, we have time to not do one in Summer 2007 and just do a regular TAG for Summer 2007. Then we don't have to try to change content halfway through putting a Big Tag together. I not only think we could do it. I think we should do it. I think it would be good way to put some of the money to use. This presumes that this much larger editing task would fit into Karen's life without unduly adverse results -- of course, that assumption could be as wrong wearing bucks after Labor Day or wingtips in summer. It wouldn't be my first mistaek or my lsat. _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc