Thanks Scott, I saw your post after I had responded to hers. You'd think I'd LEARN not to respond to AGA posts until reading ALL the messages since the last time I tuned in, wouldn't you?<g> Ah well, back to turn wings on the barby Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Foreign vs US Memberships -- 2nd Draft > > > Yes, including ad revs shouldn't even be an issue and I apologize for my > mistake to not include them in the analysis originally. It was a very good > thing that Cheryl caught the error and pointed it out. > > It's worth noting, I think, that local TAG memberships are not breaking > even without the ad revs, local TAG memberships are just a little better > than breaking when factoring in the ad revs. Close to break even is how I > think it should be, which is why I altered my positon after seeing > Cheryl's post. And this reminds us how crucial ad revs our to the vitality > of TAG. Tag is a going concern because of the subsidy from ad revs and > foreign memberships. I'm very uncomfortable with that situation and again, > I'm grateful to Cheryl for having raised the issue re foreign memberships > and fairness. It was insightful to have seen the inequity the rest of us > had missed. > > sh > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> > To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 6:10:56 PM > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Foreign vs US Memberships -- 2nd Draft > > > I agree completely. > > I think we should ONLY be considering raising dues if dues PLUS > advertising > doesn't cover TAG. Otherwise, we are "stealing" editorial pages from the > membes to use for advertisements to fund...? > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@wilstream.com> > To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:29 AM > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Foreign vs US Memberships -- 2nd Draft > > >> waitaminutewaitaminutewaitaminute. The reason we started accepting >> advertising was so that we could produce TAG in color without raising >> membership dues. Now we have discovered that the membership dues >> *almost* covers TAG production, without considering the advertising? >> >> I think TAG should be paying its own way, but that includes revenues >> from advertising also. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> S. Hieber wrote: >>> Note the I haven't forgotten to take allocated revenues into >>> consideration, it's just that the amount for TAG is inconsequential. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: S. Hieber <shieber@yahoo.com> >>> To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:50:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Foreign vs US Memberships -- 2nd Draft >>> >>> >>> Now that I had a chance to look up in my archive of money files at home, >>> I've determined that my original off-the-cuff estimate of the overheads >>> was very low. The actual overheads for the last full year, on an >>> allocated basis, are much higher, over $3 per one year TAG membership, >>> or >>> about $0.80 per issue based on 2005. >>> >>> So I revised the spreadsheet, cleaned up a few things, and added a >>> couple >>> columns to show the impact of the allcoated overheads and the 1-year >>> pricing, actual and recommended. >>> >>> So, I'd recomend dropping about $5 per year off of the Foreign >>> membership >>> and adding $3 to the local. That doesn't quite balance things but it's >>> much closer. >>> >>> sh >> _______________________________________________ >> AGA-sc mailing list >> AGA-sc@thekrib.com >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc >> > > > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc