On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Cheryl Rogers wrote: >> Guess that was the root of the problem. I didn't care one way or another, >> and was willing to let that be the responsibility of "someone else". > > Problem is, they are too. No one said, "Bill, go take care of that," so > maybe he thinks we don't want to have shirts. > > At the time the t-shirt thing came up, I thought it was too soon to talk > about shirts that could be made in a couple of weeks. I don't even > remember the price difference between Bill's guy and mine anymore. I was > planning on looking that up. I really didn't follow the whole shirt thing when it was happening, between being very busy with the work & kids, not interested at all in the minutia being bantered back & forth, and figuring you guys would hash it out in the end. But given that I can't sleep for the 2nd night in a row, I checked the archives, grepping for the word "shirt". There's nothing really relevant in aga-sc. On conheads, the discussion occurred between April and early May. It started with me asking Bill to do a logo that we could use for brochures and possible T's, and quickly mutated into discussions of colors and printing style. The one major concern I had at the time was whether shirts would be on the registration page, which I reflected in my criticism that we weren't going to sell 100 shirts, and were obviously not going to reach an solution quickly enough to put them on the registration page: http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-conheads/0604/msg00051.html Scott tried to get a vote on making the T-shirts an "extra" item to be sold at the convention, which nobody really responded to. So it just happened. Instead, the discussion continued on printing styles, whether a photo could really look good on a T-Shirt, and the $1-2 price difference between Cheryl's sources and Bill's. Early May, Bill said he'd get a quote from his guy. At the end of May, Scott asked if he got a quote, and he replied with the quote of $10-15 for 100 shirts: http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-conheads/0605/msg00041.html Then Scott said he'd put it in the budget. Then it was silent. No posts about shirts at all, save a passing comment I made about the graphic being for potential shirts http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-conheads/0608/msg00096.html until September when Scott posted an unanswered question asking if we were doing shirts: http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-conheads/Current/msg00021.html So as far as I know, nobody has yet answered the question SHOULD WE DO THEM? Nobody has yet addressed the issue of whether it's in budget. And nobody has really answered the question about whether we'll end up with 50-75 shirts sitting around because only 25 people buy them at the convention. Maybe some of us talked about this privately (not archived). I just don't remember. My line of thinking would be that 100 convention shirts will not sell. Maybe 25-50 will sell at the convention. But few will sell on the site afterwards. Maybe we could get a smaller order -- that would certainly address MY concerns. I *don't* want 100 convention shirts. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc