I think, though, if we have more people on the committee, the chances that we will find some volunteers to “do” will be improved. As it stands now, I don’t think a lot of people know how/WHAT to volunteer for. If they are part of the conversation, they’ll have a better idea of the scope of a particular project.
Karen
From: aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com [mailto:aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of S. Hieber
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:39 PM
To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] New BOD member?
If you think about it, there are very few actions that the Board takes -- how many votes in the last two years? I'm not try to belittle the importance of the Baord but I'm not sure Appontments to the Board are the way to get more folks doing more things in the AGA. It works fine for folks that are very entusiastic already as they do AGA things already -- Phil is a terrific example of this. Re the Advisory committee, where most of the "action" takes place, I wouldn't mind seeing more folks on the list and wouldn't object to, and would join the rest of you in supporting, any of the names that have been mentioned -- except Geroge Bush -- his name was mentioned for illustration purposes only and I'd object to his being on the AC.
Part of the issue, or so it seems to me, is what exactly do we want other folks to be doing? It's one thing to have more folks on the team to come up with ideas -- although I don't think we have a shortage of those -- generally the bigger problem is finding someone to *do* something with one of the ideas we have stockpiled. Lots of folks will volunteer to give us more ideas. But who will do something and what will they do?
sh
From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@dustyuniverse.com>
To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:37:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] New BOD member?
Okay, so how can we invite the MEMBERS to feel more involved in their own organization? Could they nominate some folks and we can pick the most highly qualified ones? All of this published in TAG, of course. :-)
Cheryl
S. Hieber wrote:
If you change the by-laws, you have to refile with the state of Mass, and then, I belive that will trip having to refile status with the IRS.
I don't think the original bylaws limited the number of Board Members, so we can add without changing bylaws.
As for democracy, I submit that George Bush was elected twice ( well, sort of. Enough said).
I further submit that it's unlikely to find candidates that are well known to a broad number of members and elections would likely result in a poor man's form of post-WWII Italian goverments, with a multitude of small popularity contests in competition. Actually, the Post-WWII Italian governments coalesced frequently and variously into different coalitions with some organization, albeit short-lived. For aquatic gardeners, I think things would be even less organized. And there would be no indication of how much any particular person would be willing to actually do.
If, and I only say if, we were going to change things, I'd rather see Board positons having specific job/task assignments and then appointing folks based on their accepting the responsibility of the job/tasks.
sh
From: Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 9:07:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] New BOD member?
Yes, although I do agree that Phil's Board nomination has merit, I think the number of Board members issue should be addressed first.
I also believe that the Board needs to be an elected position with term limits of some type. This way the membership will hopefully feel more
connected to the organization and the Board positions will not be diluted as Erik mentioned.
I have brought this up before on list and off list with nearly all of you, I recall from previous discussions we have had that this will require a change in our by-laws.
Getting back to Phil, I did spend some time although brief discussing his future involvement in AGA. We did even talk about a possible Board position He was open to it but there was nothing committal. Has he expressed a specific interest in the Board position? That would be great if he is.
I did also speak with Ben Van Dither also. He will be a great add to the MCMC. I have also talked to Efren and he would be interested in being added to the MCM.
I agree with Karen, energy post-convention is still unusually high and we should take advantage of this to try to continue this by adding folks into the MCM. I also think we need to take a look at who is on the MCM
and possibly remove some folks from there as well.
Regards,
Larry
--- On Fri, 11/28/08, Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] New BOD member?
> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 6:41 PM
> I'm OK with this -- both worked their tail off at the
> convention. My only
> concern is whether the board is a continually-expanding
> set, or whether
> folks should also retire as others come in.
>
> - Erik
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Karen Randall wrote:
>
> >
> > I was wondering what the rest of you thought about the
> possibility of inviting Phil onto the
> > BOD. He certainly put a tremendous amount of effort
> into the convention, and seems to be on
> > track to continue his work for AGA going forward.
> The Atlanta convention ould have been much
> > harder without his “on the ground” help. I think
> we need to consider “growing” this group to
> > include more people to share the work. Phil not only
> is a hard worker, but seems to be someone
> > that gets along well with everyon else on the board.
> What do you all think?
> >
> >
> >
> > Likewise., I hope you don’t think I was overstepping
> my boundaries, but I invited Ben Van
> > Dinther to
join the Management Committee. He also
> worked very hard on the convention on a
> > number of fronts, and has expressed an interest in
> becoming more involved in the “work” of AGA…
> > I don’t think we can afford to turn away that kind
> of enthusiasm! Cheryl and I started to have
> > a conversation at the convention about other people
> whom we might want to ask to join the MC,
> > but then work got in the way of finishing the
> conversation!<g> Do any of you have any other
> > names to put forth? This is the time to “catch”
> people, when enthusiasm is still high from the
> > convention!
> >
> >
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot
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