I too use the Seachem Acid Buffer, I havent found any problems with it and had good results keeping a stable pH with it. Its also a non phosphate based buffer so it doesnt encourage the algae. Steph Lcrabo@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/26/2000 7:45:27 AM, you wrote: > > <<> Any other suggestions on how to safely lower the pH? > > > Try one of the following- > 1) Sphagnum peat moss or Fluval peat pellets; I put it in a box filter and > let it bubble. Some folks just stick it in the toe of an old nylon and let > it "steep" like tea, only it takes a lot longer(days). > 2) Oak or beech leaves. Dry brown ones off the ground. just layer the > bottom of the tank. > Either of the above methods will also soften the water. Hardness is also > a factor here. > 3) Muriatic acid from a hardware store. This is 31% hydrochloric. It > stinks something awful and is too strong to use straight. Mix one quart of > muriatic with 3 gallons of water. Then use it sparingly. Start at 2 drops > per gallon, measure the pH, and don't be surprized if the next day the pH is > back up. This is alkalinity, and must be overcome to make a permanent change > in pH effective. Eventually, it will stay down. > > Bob Dixon>> > > I have recently started to use Seachem acid buffer. I have soft water, but > it has stayed alkaline despite leaves, peat (I probably didn't change often > enough), and bogwood. I have successfully adjusted the pH of my Apisto tanks > to ~6, and a checkerboard tank to less than six, the limit of my test kit. > Last week the checkerboards spawned, and today I noticed that an older pair > of norberti spawned after nearly a year of no such luck. I think the buffer > works. I used a trial and error method similar to Bob's. Start with a > little, see what happens over the next few days, etc. > > Lars > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!