Mike, You are making me come out of my comfort zone, lurking that is. >Was this the dark or light colored form? (pt 2 needs proofing & then will be on >the way) You do pay a lot of attention to detail, don't you. Both actually. I don't see any diagnostic differences between the two. Color form does sound appropriate unless it is a dominance thing, which might very well be since only larger and more bold males show the lighter color. I'll get a shot of the darker color form. Pt 2- The Winkelfleck picture came from a shipment that contained only that species. According to Roger Souza, the cousin of the discoverer Albertini Pinedo, the fish comes from the Rio Orosa. He couldn't pinpoint the tributary. Albertini is the same guy that discovered the Parrot Apisto and the "Algodon II" (which is the proposed name ?), both from localities near the Rio Orosa. So, in summary, I am pretty confident about the general area but will have to wait until later this year for exact location and ecological data. Julio ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!