Steve, I have 80 bare bottom tanks and raise Apisto fry all the time. Check out my article at my new site: <http://members.aol.com/WnyZman/ article.html> Z-Man ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!