On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, V Kutty wrote: > Erik, > > I've seen a really nice pic of Crenicichla notophthalmus (remember the > one I was having trouble IDing?) take by you or Kathy...what are your > techniques. Of course, you had really pretty plants in the background > - that always helps! Nothing fancy... cheap manual vivitar flash on a cord, held with left hand at high angle. 100mm macro lens on camera, held with right hand. ASA 100-400 film, keep lens at f/11-22. Sometimes I sit the flash on the top glass instead. Sit around impatiently for the fish to pose... which is a problem for those pikes because they never seem to poke out their fins. The apistos are much more cooperative to me. Recently we've been shooting Costco-bulk print film instead of slide film, and developing only the negatives. Then we just scan the negs directly in. Very very cheap way to go, and the quality is better than slides. After reading your (Vinny's) website, I started playing with a second flash (usually held by innocent bystander), but have not had any good results yet. May take a concentrated day of sitting around taking lots of controlled pictures and notes on each one. As for digitals, I don't think I'd buy a digital unless it had a hotshoe or sync cord connection. Ideally waiting for digital SLR at affordable prices. I enjoy poking around with my DV camera on still mode (it has a flash), but the exposure is just too random when using an externally-triggered flash. -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!