hello Kyle I dont think you could call them F1 fish, I think you would have to have both parents being F0 for that to happen, but calling them tank raised X F0 fry would be appropriate, at least i think so, maybe someone else has a better understanding of this? Either way congrats on the Ram fry!!!!! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!