Hi, Just to add to the recent thread: I got to watch my F-1 Apistogramma sp vielfleck spawning in an overcrowded 'will you please grow' type tank last night. The female was upside down, putting eggs on the inside top of a cave. The dominant male was outside, maybe 2 cm away, shaking away, clearly trying to fertilize the eggs. Beside him, maybe 1 cm back, were two smaller males from a 3 week later brood, engaging in exactly the same movements. Effectively, there were three males trying to fertilize one batch of eggs. There was no fighting or even aggressive displaying through the entire process. This morning, however, the eggs are gone. Hmmm. -Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!