This will be my second and last post regarding this particular message. I do test my tap water, RO water and my "waste" water. The waste water is never more than 2 or 3 ppm's more than my tap water. The RO water starts out at (0) and gradually increased as time goes on and this way I know when to replace it. The idea that the ppm's are increased seems logical but I say seems! The first of 3 filters is a "Omnipure" "dirt and sand" remover the 2nd is a "taste & odor" remover. So far nothing has happened to the hardness until the final one line in/ two line out membrane where the hardness is removed. This filter membrane has to be replaced about once a year and I'm sorry but I never weighed them to find out the weight difference but I can tell you it's quite a bit. That weight happens to be the dissolved solids we are trying to remove from the original water. As for the other suggestion to run my 170ppm waste water back through again, I hope you were jesting as I know of no way to get the 80psi needed to get it through that very narrow tubing. Z-Man ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!