I was kinda waiting for one of the "tetra " guys to help you as well. I did spawn them a long, long time ago so here goes. First of all as Mike pointed out there are several species that look very similar. I believe the true splashing samlet has red in the fins and that is the distinguishing characteristic. Again perhaps one of the Tetra experts could shed some light on this. When I first began in the hobby Tetras were my first love and I spawned a few of them. I think it realy helped me understand the importance of pH and water hardness as well as water quality in getting fish eggs to hatch. Back to breeding. They are rather easy to breed. They will spawn in just plain old soft water with a pH of 6.5. I used to spawn mine when I was kid in just pure rain water. No peat filtration just plain rain water. I beleive plain RO would give similer results. Many of the "old timers" out there may be able to share experiences as well. When I started in the hobby I remember talking with a few of the older aquarists who had allot of experiences with them. From those conversations I am lead to beleive they have a wider tolerance of water conditions then opne may expect. My friend Jaap Jan DeGreef of Florida has had success with them as well with just plain rainwater as well. I fattned up my fish with live foods bbs and mosquito larvae. I then used a leaf of a plastic sword plant I attached the leaf to my glass top about 3-4 inches above the water temp about 78-80 F. They would readily spawn on this fake leaf. I would water incubate the eggs. The male will continue to splash the eggs if allowed to and is worth watching the first time you do it. I would simply place the leaf in a tub with the same water and then feed the babies in these little tubs. They are too small to eat bbs so you'll need an infosuria culture. after a few days you can switch to bbs. This is a really cool fish Frank good luck with them. Dave Sanchez ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!