I bought a used 29 gallon tank about two months ago. The person sold me everything, tank + accessories, water, fish, everything. I sold the fish (Oscars) because I didn't want them. I bought a bunch of rocks and plants and tried to set up an Apisto tank. The first problem I had was that the plants kept dying. I didn't have enough light so I bought a double strip light and put two plant bulbs in it. I had a couple angel fish and a weather loach in it for a while and everything was fine. So I bought some Apistos. They kept dying on me. I knew they needed soft water but I didn't know there was two different types until I bought a test kit. I talked to the people at my LFS and they kept telling me that only carbonate hardness (KH) mattered, not general hardness (GH). My GH was around 600 ppm, and I mentioned my concern to my LFS. They said don't worry. Later I found out (while reading an article on the Krib web page) GH is what is meant when fish people talk about soft water! I printed up the article and showed it the owner of the LFS and he still said it didn't matter. I said screw him and I fixed the GH. The fish seemed to be fine. Starting about a week and a half ago a lot of hair algae (I think) has been showing up. I have a feeling it is due to a lack of CO2. I was going to buy an injector early this week. I can't get my pH down! I tried adding Seachem acid buffer and got my pH down to 6. Then in a few days it would go back up to about 7. I fought this for about a week, no luck stabilizing it. I then filtered it through Canadian sphagnum peat. Didn't change it. My tank has been like this since day one. Now within the last 24 hours 4 more fish have died! (a female beta, an angel fish, a weather loach, and a violet goby) My water conditions are: pH 7.1 ammonia 0 nitrite 0 GH 100 ppm KH 54 ppm My first question is: what could be buffering my water so that I can't bring down the pH? I think that maybe there was a disease / parasite in the tanks when I bought them. Is this possible? My fish die with no outward looking problem, so it has to be internal. I want to just strip down the tank and start from square one. What would be the best way to do this? I have 11 fish left in the tank. I have a spare 10 gallon, could I put them in that while clean out the 29, or would that be to small? Should I just leave then in buckets? What should I use to sterilize the rocks, gravel, tank, and filter? I am sorry if this rambled. I am just so frustrated, I don't know what to do!!!! Any suggestions on any of my questions will be greatly appreciated! Eric ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eric Martina University of Illinois Electrical Engineering ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!