>>> Tale a look at Florida Driftwoo. (http://www.floridadriftwood.com/ ) he sells Australian Pine driftwood. It's an invasive, non-native plant that's estabished itself in the coastal areas of Florida. It's very dense and sinks without soaking and won't discolor the water. It's also a brackish/sea water plant so it will not have any freshwater type parasites than can be found I haven't bought from them yet but the owner is a long-time tropical fish enthusiest with a good reputation for quality plants and service. Bill Vannerson McHenry, IL http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!