Thanks very much for the suggestions. Are the copepods, cephalopods, etc very small critters (i.e.- unseen by me) living on the roots of such plants? As apposed to other food sources such as algae and rotifiers living in the sponge filter/leaves? A question about the detail of the fish food part... Are you suggesting that I put plenty of fish food in with the new plants to help establish/feed the invert population until the plants/inverts are fed to the rams? (I still operate under many of the fish "rules of thumb" and would, therefore, suspect that the extra food would rot in the plant tank and turn to ammonia--good for the plants, yes--but good for the inverts, I don't know?) Regards, J. ======================= Jason Sullivan Wayne, NJ 07470 jsull97@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Dave Gomberg Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 11:22 AM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: Re: FW: RAM fry and Holiday Vacation You need a ton of plants with a well established invert population (copepods, cephalopods, etc) established on them. Frogbit roots, floating water sprite roots, java moss, java fern with extensive root system, all these are very good sources. 2 days notice is probably too little, but try to round up what you can today, put them in something (a spare tank?) with plenty of fish food, ask someone to transfer some of them to the fry tank each day..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!