Re:

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>]

I make no claim for most of this. Much of it is based on work done by Ingo
Koslowski and a lot of discussions back and forth between us. If, or when, a
book comes out on this - whether in German or English - rest assured that a
translation will be ready within a few months of publication.

I told Jeff Magnus, chief guru & editor for the ASG, that I would be willing to
give a talk on "The Art of Apisto ID" if I can find the money to get to
Parsippany (ACA convention). The talk would describe how to go about IDing
apistos, and include photos of nearly all forms brought back alive to date.
Unfortunately, I need to scrounge up $500 for air fare or find someone willing
to share driving/expenses for a 2 day non-stop "cruise" from Denver to NJ (only
about 1900 miles).

Mike Wise

Bob Crosby wrote:

> Here, here!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <CarlHans@aol.com>
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re:
>
> Just one more example of why we're waiting for Mike to write his DC book...
>
> In a message dated 03/16/2001 10:46:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> apistowise@bewellnet.com writes:
>
> << Scott,
>
>  Good for you, a true observer! Yes, A. Papagei, along with A. sp. Pebas,
> and
> a
>  couple of other unnamed forms from Peru, all show a "caudal patch" made out
> of
>  the caudal spot and a dark part of Bar 7. It is similar to that seen in the
>  commbrae-complex species (A. commbrae, A. inconspicua, A. linkei, & some
>  intermediates) from the Rio Guaporé/Paraguay systems. The former group,
> called
>  the Pebas-complex (in the regani-group) can be separated from the
>  commbrae-complex (also in the regani-group) by certain dark markings most
> easily
>  seen in brooding females. The females of the Pebas-complex show very few
> spots
>  (only 2 - 4) along the lateral band while in brood dress. Females of the
>  commbrae-complex show 6 - 7 lateral spots. Pebas-complex forms all exhibit
> a
>  series of dorsal spot similar to eunotus-complex & macmasteri-group
> species.
> The
>  same dorsal spots on commbrae-complex species generally have very
> indistinct
>  borders and usually form a poorly formed band of sooty gray along the back.
> The
>  Pebas-complex species are (so far) much more colorful and slightly larger
> forms
>  than those of the commbrae-complex. The commbrae-complex occurs in the
> Guaporé &
>  Paraguay drainages of Bolivia, Brazil, & Paraguay. The Pebas-complex is
> found in
>  the Amazonas drainage of northeastern Peru. The commbrae-complex is most
> closely
>  related to the resticulosa-complex while the Pebas-complex shows
> relationships
>  to the regani- & cruzi-complexes.
>
>  Mike Wise
>   >>
>
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